odd free tech occurances

[ybbor]

playing unpatched as the greeks. i'm at war with the byzantians (they only have one city left ). i finish the middle ages and hit what's the big picture at the city-change screen, map out my entire industrial age tech path, my first pick is steam-power. I hit the 'X' this is normally where i see what my free tech is, but to my suprise i see "we have learned the Secrets of Mysticism from the byzantians" i don't even have the great library! not to mention the obvious fact that i already knew it! the free tech i really got (even though there was no mpop-up notifying me) was steam power (i have coal ). coincidentally my war hapiness eams to have faded, and a lot of my byzantium cities have fell nito disorder (a little worrysome playing under democracy)

can someone explain a reasonable idea of what happened?

 

[The Omega]

Were you scientific?

 

[TimBentley]

Sometimes when you gain a free tech (maybe it's fixed in a patch, I don't remember if it happens when patched), the game doesn't tell you the correct tech.

 

[Shadow Phoenix]

try using nukes.that helps ^_^ . expecilly if they have only one city

 

[ybbor]

Sometimes when you gain a free tech (maybe it's fixed in a patch, I don't remember if it happens when patched), the game doesn't tell you the correct tech.

but why? what coding could possibly do this?

@Omega: i said i was the greeks
@Shadow: that's not my problem, besides i said i just enetered the industrial age

 

[TimBentley]

My guess is that the games sees that you have gotten a free tech, and looks for a tech you acquired from an AI, so it doesn't tell you about the tech you actually got free, since it was not from an AI. It doesn't make sense to me either.

 

[Drakan]

I think this is in the War Academy.

If you are a scientific civ you get a free tech in the new age. You hit the big picture screen when it pops up and choose the tech you want. Even better, you can gift other scientific civs techs so they pass on to the new age and then you choose a different tech from the ones they've gotten (you know the new free tech they've gotten through the trade screen). You then trade the tech you've chosen (and only you will have it If you are on par techwise with other civs) for theirs and you end up in a new age with three or four new techs plus gold or luxuries depending on your deals and the amount of other scientific civs. You save a lot of time and gold.

Look it up:

http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3acad_free_tech.shtml

 

[The Last Conformist]

but why? what coding could possibly do this?

Presumably it's got a list of messages for such occurences, and it's some error as to which element it picks.

I believe this is fixed in one of the C3C patches.

 

[The Omega]

@Omega: i said i was the greeks

Sirry, didn't see that.
But since you were sceintific, that means you get a free tech anyways. So that might be it....

 

[wit>trope]

This has happened to me too with the latest 1.22 patch.

 

[Willem]

playing coincidentally my war hapiness eams to have faded, and a lot of my byzantium cities have fell nito disorder (a little worrysome playing under democracy)

can someone explain a reasonable idea of what happened?

Obviously War Weariness is starting to set in.

 

[Randy]

Their is a wonder that goes away at "Steam Power". It may be the Hanging Gardons. So when you get it some people will stop being happy.

 

[ybbor]

Their is a wonder that goes away at "Steam Power". It may be the Hanging Gardons. So when you get it some people will stop being happy.

of course! why didn't i think of that?

@Draken: that would make since if:
1) there was an age before the anceint age
2) it was a middle age tech and i was moving from the ancient age to the middle age/ it was an industrial age
3) you had formed a response after actually reading my post, not just guessing aftyer reading the title

@Tim: yeah i guess that makes some semblance of sense, in fact i probably did originally get it from them, but why would it do this if i don't even have the great library?

@The Omega: yes, i'm not a complete idiot, i know scientific gives me a free tech each age, i didn't just start playing yesterday

@ willien: if you has actually read the part you quoted you would notice i already acknowledged war weariness by saying my war ghapiness was fading, i understand how war weariness works thank you very much


People, let me assure you i am not an idiot, i know how to play the game, i understand war weariness, scientific and all that, please stop insulting my intelligence, i was asking about the origins of this bug, not asking for adivice on taking the byzantian city (shadow), or what the scientific trait does (Omega), or what happens while at war in a representative government (Willem). Thank you.

 

[Tomoyo]

...and I would have thought that Ybbor would have a respectable reputation by now...

 

[The Omega]

@The Omega: yes, i'm not a complete idiot, i know scientific gives me a free tech each age, i didn't just start playing yesterday

Actually, I didn't realize that scientific got a free tech until I had been playing civ for a long time.

 

[Gyathaar]

Its some sort of bug..
it happens when you are a scientific civ and you go into the big picture after you enter a new age.. if you now select one of the starting techs, and you just happen to get this same tech as your free tech, you get this weird message about getting a random tech from a random civ.

Here is a picture where it happened to me once.

However I cant remember getting this with any of the last patches of conquests, so it might have been fixed.

 

[Willem]

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@ willien: if you has actually read the part you quoted you would notice i already acknowledged war weariness by saying my war ghapiness was fading, i understand how war weariness works thank you very much

War Weariness and War Happiness are totally different things. Since you didn't mention both, you didn't acknowledge War Weariness in your post. And I don't make assumptions about how well people know the game, if they miss a key point I mention it.

 

[ybbor]

War Weariness and War Happiness are totally different things. Since you didn't mention both, you didn't acknowledge War Weariness in your post. And I don't make assumptions about how well people know the game, if they miss a key point I mention it.

they are directly realted, you can't have both war weariness and war hapiness at the same time, if war hapiness has just faded that means my citizens are netural about the war, they're two sides of the same coin

@Gyathaar: Thanks, taht really helps to know it happens when you pick the tech you get, good to know, thanks