Official System Requirements

Well, i know this is out of topic, but i dont think that civ v will be much better then civ iv, cuz the only changes are that the graphic ir lighty changed better, but it looks like the game play has gone worse!!!! i'm just say'in
 
Thats not true, Civ5's gameplay is improve in numerous ways, a few things have been left out of Civ5 that some people may have previously liked so they may consider it to be a "bad" modification, but for the most part that is wrong, its just different is all, and a lot of problems seen in Civ4 have been removed, Gameplay will certainly be improved upon that from Civ4.

And the Graphics alone make it a "better" game at least astectic's wise, IT IS VERY PRETTY, which I love, certainly the game is a big improvement on Civ4 in this aspect, after watching lots of videos and seeing screenshots of Civ5 I found it very demoralising to play a game of BTS, (just like after being used to BTS I found it demoralising to play a game of Vanilla Civ4.). Anyone who buys Civ5 and then decides to "go back" to Civ4 obviously is some hardcore Civ4 fan, I found it very frustrating that the prettiness was so apparently not there.
 
@ BeCivilized

If you want to play high-spec games then you will need to replace your hardware or upgrade it which is cheaper as you I'm sure are well aware every 2-3 years, if you want to play medium spec games then possibly an older computer will last longer, but the older and more out of date your computer the slower it will play any game coming around 2 years down the line compared to a newer modle. If you don't want to replace your computer for 6 years you will indeed struggle to play "next-gen" games as they are supposed to be designed to be at the top end of spec's when they come out. While you may think "why is Civ a next-gen/high spec game" I personally am happy it is, If I wanted to play games to the specs of a 5 year old machine I would play Civ4. Or new games that come at the low-spec end of gaming, cheaper games for instance, or indie games, if you want to play the top of the line products you will need a machine capable of handling them.

Nobody should have to replace their machine if its only 2 years old though to play a next-gen game, thats asking a bit much, it should still work on lower settings, as for Civ5, we have been told it should run even on low spec old machines, in low settings and maybe a little on the sluggish side would be my guess, I would say test out the Demo on your machine, if you can run that then you should be able to run the full version too. The "minimum specs" are probably a little on the high side, as the game will legally have to run on those publicised specs (you dont want customers buying your product and returning it because it doesnt work even though they were told it would), also a game should run well on "minimum specs" not run at the highest standard because thats whats Recommended is for, but even under minimum, you may still get it to work. Give it a go. Even if you buy the full version of the game and it doesn't work, you can just put Civ5 on your shelf for another 2 years to collect a tihnk layer of dust, and then when you get your new high spec PC, dust that baby sparkling clean, have a little cough from the dust entering your lungs and it can be the first game you play on it. It won't be out-dated to you (even if all of us have moved onto PS4's and 20-core PC's playing the New Virtual Reality softwared Civ6 Extreeme Edition.) You still playing old games will have no experience of such things, so still being used to graphics like Civ4. Then you will play Civ5 in two years time on your new machine, and think, Damn! It was worth the wait! This looks amazing, why didn't I strip the kid's college funds and splash out on a high-spec gaming machine two years ago!!!, sure playing "one more turn" every night till 6am and then getting up to work at 8am and coming home at 6pm to go right to playing on Civ again till 6am again for the 17th day in a row would have cost you your marriage and the legal right to see your children, but DAMN! would it have been worth it.

So anyway it may work on your current system on low specs (I haven't actually looked at your specs, but if its only two years old its not going to be an antique), the Demo should be a good indicator, good luck, hope it works well enough to play on.
 
@ BeCivilized

If you want to play high-spec games then you will need to replace your hardware or upgrade it which is cheaper as you I'm sure are well aware every 2-3 years, if you want to play medium spec games then possibly an older computer will last longer, but the older and more out of date your computer the slower it will play any game coming around 2 years down the line compared to a newer modle. If you don't want to replace your computer for 6 years you will indeed struggle to play "next-gen" games as they are supposed to be designed to be at the top end of spec's when they come out. While you may think "why is Civ a next-gen/high spec game" I personally am happy it is, If I wanted to play games to the specs of a 5 year old machine I would play Civ4. Or new games that come at the low-spec end of gaming, cheaper games for instance, or indie games, if you want to play the top of the line products you will need a machine capable of handling them.

I am still looking forward to this game, it looks like a cross between two of my favorites, Panzer General 2 and the Civilization series. I am hopeful enough that I can get my machine, as old as it is, to run the software that I went ahead and pre-ordered. People here have been helpful in adjusting my attitude; seeing the minimum specs and reading about the recommended specs, and my machine being so far from the recommended, really baffled me because I don't even know anyone personally who has a machine that would meet the recommended specs. I'm going to give it a try though, who knows, maybe a new video board will be all that I need, or my current one may work on low settings. I'm expecting the demo to be disabled enough that it won't tell me much (such as how the game will run on a larger map near the end of the game, for instance). Thanks for all the input everyone.
 
I am still looking forward to this game, it looks like a cross between two of my favorites, Panzer General 2 and the Civilization series. I am hopeful enough that I can get my machine, as old as it is, to run the software that I went ahead and pre-ordered. People here have been helpful in adjusting my attitude; seeing the minimum specs and reading about the recommended specs, and my machine being so far from the recommended, really baffled me because I don't even know anyone personally who has a machine that would meet the recommended specs. I'm going to give it a try though, who knows, maybe a new video board will be all that I need, or my current one may work on low settings. I'm expecting the demo to be disabled enough that it won't tell me much (such as how the game will run on a larger map near the end of the game, for instance). Thanks for all the input everyone.

My name is Mike.

Now you know somebody who exceeds the recommended. Will be maxing at 1920x1080.
 
Answer: "Lightbulb? who needs a lightbulb to play Civ?"

Its easier to see the keyboard and mouse in the dark with a lightbulb which will help your 3am "one more turn" game playing. Technically you can play without looking for short cut keys if your used to typing and know where they are, but meh, its still a little helpful.
Plus without the lightbulb great scientists wont be able to research techs!!!!
 
The min requirement really only affects us laptop users without a desktop (hard to have one when you are on the move all the time). My 3 month old $1400 laptop with intel GMA 4500HD is sadly below the min. Discrete graphics is simply not an option for me as they eat up too much battery and produce too much heat. I hope I can still play at the lowest graphics settings since frankly I don't care for the eye candies. The 4500HD is quite a popular chipset on a lot of laptops.
 
The min requirement really only affects us laptop users without a desktop (hard to have one when you are on the move all the time). My 3 month old $1400 laptop with intel GMA 4500HD is sadly below the min. Discrete graphics is simply not an option for me as they eat up too much battery and produce too much heat. I hope I can still play at the lowest graphics settings since frankly I don't care for the eye candies. The 4500HD is quite a popular chipset on a lot of laptops.
Two words: Switchable graphics
http://techreport.com/articles.x/18443

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/switchable-graphics/Pages/switchable-graphics.aspx
:cool:
 
Thats not true, Civ5's gameplay is improve in numerous ways, a few things have been left out of Civ5 that some people may have previously liked so they may consider it to be a "bad" modification, but for the most part that is wrong, its just different is all, and a lot of problems seen in Civ4 have been removed, Gameplay will certainly be improved upon that from Civ4.

And the Graphics alone make it a "better" game at least astectic's wise, IT IS VERY PRETTY, which I love, certainly the game is a big improvement on Civ4 in this aspect, after watching lots of videos and seeing screenshots of Civ5 I found it very demoralising to play a game of BTS, (just like after being used to BTS I found it demoralising to play a game of Vanilla Civ4.). Anyone who buys Civ5 and then decides to "go back" to Civ4 obviously is some hardcore Civ4 fan, I found it very frustrating that the prettiness was so apparently not there.


Maby that sounded like that i wont like civ 5, but i will buy it and see for my self how good it is, juging from the screen shots i didnt like the unit icons who are very animated like a cartoon, but i'm just say'in :)
 
Well the icons are all created by the guys developing the game from scratch, they don't look bad so credit where credit's due, but its not something I really pay much attention too, I will just "get used" to them like any changes to a UI. If you don't like them personally then thats just something you will have to grow to love, after a while the new UI will seem normal. Or you can always spend a lot of time creating an entire new UI look to the game, i.e different graphics, new icons, and the like, and put that into a mod for the game. I'm sure that will be possible, if you can't do that on a mod... then what can you do xD.
 
The min requirement really only affects us laptop users without a desktop (hard to have one when you are on the move all the time). My 3 month old $1400 laptop with intel GMA 4500HD is sadly below the min. Discrete graphics is simply not an option for me as they eat up too much battery and produce too much heat. I hope I can still play at the lowest graphics settings since frankly I don't care for the eye candies. The 4500HD is quite a popular chipset on a lot of laptops.

LOLWUT?? you got ripped off
 
The 4500HD is quite a popular chipset on a lot of laptops.

It still is, but no store will recommend it if you mention you want to play stand alone games.

Sure, your computer is expensive(and nice for the job it's intended to), but a Ferrari driver can't complain because the new local off road track is to demanding for the Ferrari :)
 
I looked up the requirements, and based on what I read before when I asked which graphics card would be best, and since the minimum requirements say 7900 video card, but looking up the best macbook pro video card is 320 M, and if the first number is how new it is (higher being better) and the second number being its preformance, then does that mean civ requires a better video card than possible in a macbook pro?
 
I looked up the requirements, and based on what I read before when I asked which graphics card would be best, and since the minimum requirements say 7900 video card, but looking up the best macbook pro video card is 320 M, and if the first number is how new it is (higher being better) and the second number being its preformance, then does that mean civ requires a better video card than possible in a macbook pro?

The second number indicates the relative performance for each generation, but every generations the performance increases, so what was once a high end card, will after a few years be outperformed by an entry level card.
 
I looked up the requirements, and based on what I read before when I asked which graphics card would be best, and since the minimum requirements say 7900 video card, but looking up the best macbook pro video card is 320 M, and if the first number is how new it is (higher being better) and the second number being its preformance, then does that mean civ requires a better video card than possible in a macbook pro?

Nvidia 320M is an entry-level low budget integrated graphics card. It does not feature dedicated memory unlike the faster GT 320M. You can probably run it on low settings, but I would recommend looking for a computer with either the GT 320M, or even better, the GT 330M.
 
People here have been helpful in adjusting my attitude; seeing the minimum specs and reading about the recommended specs, and my machine being so far from the recommended, really baffled me because I don't even know anyone personally who has a machine that would meet the recommended specs.

I was in a similar, albeit more frustrating place as you. I bought an iMac in September 2008 with a 2.8GHz Core Duo, 4 GB Ram, but an HD 2600 Pro that cannot be replaced. Yes it's my fault that I bought a non-upgradeable iMac, but 2 years was short shelf life.

Thankfully I was just able to sell the thing for $1200 to someone who wants the large screen for CAD and doesn't need the GPU for games which its a perfect system for.

For the same price i have just built components for 2.93 GHz i7, GE Force GTX 470, 4 GB Ram, 500 GB of hard drive space, and windows 7 64 bit. I am very excited to play on release date with maximum settings.

I've been following this thread since it released as I was debating whether my min-spec machine was worth holding on to and playing small maps, but finally decided to blow things up in my home office.

Civilization is just such a different animal for me. Games like COD and the whole host of other games make my playlist for short periods of time, but I literally spend 1200+ hours a year playing civilization. I was still playing CIV 4 regularly though last week. For that type of entertainment value which prevents me from spending money on anything else while I'm playing, I still think the value proposition of Civilization V including the necessary hardware improvements will be well worth it. Obviously this is dependent on how much time and enjoyment you get from the game, but I digress.
 
I looked up the requirements, and based on what I read before when I asked which graphics card would be best, and since the minimum requirements say 7900 video card, but looking up the best macbook pro video card is 320 M, and if the first number is how new it is (higher being better) and the second number being its preformance, then does that mean civ requires a better video card than possible in a macbook pro?
actually it is a 330M, what is with the all these Mac Users?

next thing you know some Mac user will ask if his dual hexacore @2.93GHz and 5870 is strong enough...
 
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