OMG! Futurehermit's Gandhi Opening on Emperor

[futurehermit]

Not much. I don't know what more to say really. Emperor+ you need to expand quickly or die pretty much. Pyramids are a great boost, but are very costly in hammers. This gambit gives you a shot at it and takes care of barbs to boot. If I play as Egypt, especially Rameses AND I see horses nearby (research AnHusb 1st) AND the capital seems suited to it (decent # of forests) then I will definitely consider doing this. It's a gambit, so it's situation specific, for sure, but it's nice to have in one' bag o' tricks to pull out when the situation calls for it.

The best tech you're going to get with a GP is theology. You have to weigh that against a shrine. If you found a religion, I would think the shrine would be the way to go.

I've been fooling around with this with Hatty a bit. Since she's creative I tried a cheap library and using scientists instead. It works as well. The nice thing is that a GS > GP, so at least you can bulb philosophy post-math/CoL if you get a GS instead of GE.

 

[NaZdReG]

ooh a non religious path to the same goal?? I'll have to give that a shot. engineers kinda make it wasteful to be industrious.. but teching upwards like that is killer. since you can hop to writing after AH or pottery (and have pre-reqs for either) that would make for a super early library. and rather than running priests there would be a beaker boost as well.

I'll give it a shot, seems like a damn good backup plan for if you miss the engineer.

NaZ

 

[NaZdReG]

hermit!!

not to just bump this but the thread has re-peaked my interest in trying the SE. any more feedback on your strat?? about to give hatty a run to see how that works out.. but not industrious would make it more difficult perhaps to land the wall and the GL?? thoughts??

NaZ

 

[NaZdReG]

well just wanted to follow up with a midgame report from germany.

went with frederick for phi/org

peaceful rex with lots of turf, got the wall up with the whip, overflow in to library, ran 2 scientists and popped an engineer at 66% to get the pyramids at like 900bc. next was an engineer, used it on the GL, next was a scientist I used to pop a tech... then another engineer which I used on the gardens. its early AD, and I'm about to start laying waste to isabella as she always annoys me. poor girl is about to face swords and cats vs her stupid archers.. not going to be pretty for her


NaZ

 

[futurehermit]

nice to hear what skill level were you playing on? my final conclusion with this strat is that it's something you should have in your arsenal and pull it out when the situation calls for it

 

[NaZdReG]

past few tries were at prince level. I think I'm about ready to step up to monarch but I keep getting bored in the midgame so I haven't finished a game in a while.

its tough to pull off the wall in a timely fashion without chopping a bunch of forests, and I've found it better to follow your lead and get the settlers out after the wall is up

I've found that running the scientsts is better in the long run, the capitol ends up being a sci / eng gp farm w/ the wall,pyramids,great library, forge, 2 scientists and an engineer. roughly 40% eng 60% sci on any spawn and either are welcome at just about any time in the game

NaZ

 

[futurehermit]

agreed, very nice.

 

[oyzar]

I did this on emproer with oracle instead of priest and it worked great. Getting Great wall, oracle, pyramids, Toa(with next GE) and GL in capital for a quite insane amount of GPP without running specialists. This was on Emperor. Also as Peter not as Ghandi so i didnt even have myst. I did however have marble in capital and loads of production. The fact that my second city had 2 gold mines and 2 deers(stealing a deer on plainsforest from capital). This allowed me to rex quite a bit seeing as there were no nearby neighbours and I was using Great wall to avoid barbs without having any guard from setlers frequently settling next to barb archers. I caputred a couple barb cities and went straight for the stars with biggest amount of land without ever having fougth a war(cept a lategame one against ghengis since i didnt have much def...).