On the addition of Dinosaurs.

[AriochIV]

Didn't read the whole thread, sorry.

 

[dexters]

Didn't read the whole thread, sorry.

it's alright, you always bring your thumbnails which makes your suggestions more authoritative

 

[Minor Annoyance]

Will my Animal Crossing: New Leaf fossils transfer over?

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[bite]

Okay, here's my guess for what the dinosaur bones represent:

There may be a Paleontology feature which operates essentially the same way as Archaeology does in Civ V: the world is dotted with dig sites which you must excavate with Paleontologist units (which operate just like Archaeologist units), generating Dinosaur Bones which operate just like Great Works and must be slotted into Museums etc., and perhaps generate Science and Tourism.

Archaeology and Paleontology could operate side by side.

Eh?

That would fit into the tech/culture duality they are going with, do you will your museums with culture based works of art, or science based artifacts?

 

[dexters]

Will my Animal Crossing: New Leaf fossils transfer over?

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So we also need weather in Civ6. Can get extra fossils after it rains.

 

[m15a]

So we also need weather in Civ6. Can get extra fossils after it rains.

And at the start of every game, Tom Nook will make you meet a civ, build 3 spearmen, grow your city to size 6, ...

 

[Redaxe]

And at the start of every game, Tom Nook will make you meet a civ, build 3 spearmen, grow your city to size 6, ...

Yea does sound like a one strategy opening.
I dont like the sound of China's UA. Sounds like excessive advantage to wonders.

 

[darko82]

Like monkeys we are primates. We did not evolved from modern days monkeys but from a far ancestor having primate characteristics.
No species give birth to another species. It's like saying a drop of 0.01 degree is going from hot to cold. The common ancestor did not give birth to a human and a monkey.
Each individual is slightly different from its parents. These mutations and selection is what creates evolution and branching species.

The common ancestor denomination is misleading I think. If you picture it as a single individual making the two branch you're mistaken. It's the result of a group that through reproduction and selection developed human characteristics overtime while for some reason (often geographic) another evolved into monkeys.
It's also worrth mentioning that there is not a single branch leading to today's results. There are multiple splits leading to us and creating other "human" species that went extinct. There are also multiple splits leading to different monkey species (some went extinct, other we see today).
The further you go back based on the fossils we found, the harder it becomes to draw a line and say what is or is not human (and please note that the alternative is not monkey !).

We also do not have a full record over the hundreds of millions of years (and never will). The theory of evolution is certainly not a complete story of who is the ancestor of whom. This is why it's an active field of research since trying to make it out based on datation and fossils is not an easy task. And to be more precise, the theory is not the story. The theory is about the process that explains the observations. These observations are like partial pictures of the story.

Thanks! This is really interesting.

Maybe we could discuss it at least in the OFF TOPIC section on Civfanatics instead - if we cannot do it here

 

[Acken]

I don't visit it but you can always PM me.

 

[Luckystrike77]

I can't believe you overlooked the biggest change that the addition of dinosaurs is going to bring.

That of course being the most powerful unique unit basic warrior unit in the history of the franchise.

What was the name of this comic again? I've been searching for it.

 

[AriochIV]

That would fit into the tech/culture duality they are going with, do you will your museums with culture based works of art, or science based artifacts?

Maybe you can have either or both, in a similar way in Civ V you can have either or both Art and Artifacts in a museum.

 

[Bandobras Took]

Where does the evidence point? We can observe mutations directly, both beneficial and not-so-beneficial. That doesn't mean the evolutionary model is necessarily accurate, but it models reality as we can observe it closer than other models so far.

Careful, having a reasonable viewpoint that accepts both the strengths and weaknesses of the evolutionary model may be close to a heresy on these boards.

 

[darko82]

Careful, having a reasonable viewpoint that accepts both the strengths and weaknesses of the evolutionary model may be close to a heresy on these boards.

Or just people spreading some new info. that they came across into

I don't visit it but you can always PM me.

Me too, in fact. The only forum I am mostly visiting now is Civ VI, which is here. But those moderators again...

 

[4N4C0ND4]

Well, to be honest I think those bones are purely aesthetics, or is there a hint that you can have museums with or without dinosaurs?

 

[stealth_nsk]

Well, to be honest I think those bones are purely aesthetics, or is there a hint that you can have museums with or without dinosaurs?

Surely they are purely aesthetics. The whole thread is a joke. Or not?

 

[Cerilis]

Well, to be honest I think those bones are purely aesthetics, or is there a hint that you can have museums with or without dinosaurs?

On the screenshot that showcased the american UB, there also was a museum in the culture district, but without the bones.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

What was the name of this comic again? I've been searching for it.

Alley Oop.

 

[beetle]

Okay, here's my guess for what the dinosaur bones represent ... There may be a Paleontology feature which operates essentially the same way as Archaeology does in Civ V: the world is dotted with dig sites which you must excavate with Paleontologist units (which operate just like Archaeologist units), generating Dinosaur Bones which operate just like Great Works and must be slotted into Museums etc., and perhaps generate Science and Tourism.

That makes perfect sense, but only for random bits of dinosaur bones sticking out of the ground.

But the graphic most prominently features an assembled dinosaur skeleton. Which makes perfect sense for illustrating a museum. (Or maybe as filling a GW slot for a museum.)

So dinosaur bones sticking out of the ground makes sense to me. And an assembled dinosaur skeleton makes sense to me.

What I cannot quite wrap my brain around is the bones in the ground next to an assembled skeleton! Is the museum supposed to be showing what the bones looked like when discovered as compared to how they look assembled? Seems very strange. I am probably over thinking this...

Careful, having a reasonable viewpoint that accepts both the strengths and weaknesses of the evolutionary model may be close to a heresy on these boards.

Actually, there was nothing in tmit’s comment that suggested weakness in the evolutionary model. He was just observing how scientific theories work. It is not inconsistent with the scientific method for creationist to point out problems/difficulties/challenges with the evolutionary model. But to credibly propose an alternative model that is consistent with the scientific method, the alternative model needs to fit not only data that the mainstream model misses but also the majority of data that the mainstream model explains. All the “Young Earth” hypothesis fail terribly by that sort of accounting, which is what tmit was pointing out when he wrote that evolution “models reality as we can observe it closer than other models so far”. In contrast, a good example of one scientific model displacing another is General Relatively theory versus purely Newtonian physics.

 

[Plus Ultra]

What I cannot quite wrap my brain around is the bones in the ground next to an assembled skeleton! Is the museum supposed to be showing what the bones looked like when discovered as compared to how they look assembled? Seems very strange. I am probably over thinking this...

You most certainly are.

 

[4N4C0ND4]

Actually the fact that the skeletons are assembled makes me think that:
1. You can find some bones buried in the ground once a tech/civic is researched (like the previous palaeontology tech)
2. Once dung up, assembled bones would be the visual aspect that this museum is filled with, wait for it, a great art of dinosaur

Moreover, I think that we just discovered the new victory condition: get all the dinosaurs species out, research genetic and BAM. You can now construct a special project called "Jurassic Park", only in 1 tile island.
Once finished, a dino will go out of the park every turn, and if you manage to get 20 dinos out, you win! (à la CiVBE Emancipation victory )

It all makes sense now