Ermak-
Prince
I just would like to point out that ciV did a good job at one thing compared to civ4. And that is the scope of the game. The map is much more grand, and game last much longer in any competative sence. If the game doesn't crash of freeze it is not uncommon to play for 5 hrs + in mutliplayer with players who aren't noobs. And that is on standart size with 8 FFA, fractal map or so. As far as I know it wont let you launch with more then 8 players. I am looking foward to multi fix when you could get bigger games (maybe large with 10-12), since I win most times against 8.