Only 16 Civs Overall And Still 7 in The Game!!!

[Damien]

I'm really diseappointed when i see Firaxis put only 16 civs overall(even if there's the custom button),it's not enough and moreover and the worst 7 civs in a game.

Sign here a petition and say how many civs u wanna c.
Personnaly i want 48 civs overall and the custom button and 16 civs in the game.

 

[Håkan Eriksson]

Originally posted by Damien:
I'm really diseappointed when i see Firaxis put only 16 civs overall(even if there's the custom button),it's not enough and moreover and the worst 7 civs in a game. <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/mad.gif" border=0>
Sign here a petition and say how many civs u wanna c.
Personnaly i want 48 civs overall and the custom button and 16 civs in the game.

How do you know that thier will only be 7 civs?

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[Damien]

Look at Apolyton...in the forums a guy who bought PCgameplay says that in the article a Firaxis-team member said that they will be 7 civs in game.

 

[Thunderfall]

7 civs... that is a bit surprising. I thought Civ3 would contain maybe a max of 10 Civs in the same game.

 

[Håkan Eriksson]

Originally posted by Damien:
Look at Apolyton...

No thanx. I won't

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Originally posted by Damien:
in the forums a guy who bought PCgameplay says that in the article a Firaxis-team member said that they will be 7 civs in game. <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/aargh4.gif" border=0>

I this is true then it rely suks!

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[animepornstar]

it´s good that it´s only 18 civs, cause i don´t want to meet small nations like the canadians or the scots, i mean this is for the big guys.

but just 7 civs in the game? a little bit freedom should we players have.

 

[allhailIndia]

I would like to see 10 civs in a game but frankly, I think there should be no more than 20 civs overall. I only want the major civs from an ancient starting period like Babylonians, Sioux, Chinese, Indians, Celts and not Poles, British, Canadians, Americans,and the sort.

 

[Magnus]

If we are down to 16 Civs, who got the axe?

 

[allhailIndia]

Unfortunately the answer to that question lies only in the minds of Sid Meier, Jeff Briggs and Brian Reynolds. Prhaps in the near future they may endeavor to divulge the truth about this great mystery

 

[Mongol Horde]

Yes this is a little disappointing isn't it? I would like to see up to 10 civs in a game with about 30 to choose from. There were abviously programming issues here because I don't see why Firaxis would have lowered the number otherwise.

 

[Damien]

in CTP there r 8 civs in a game and 41 overall...so,i don't think it's a programmation issue

 

[Cedric Greene]

I think that the lack of civs is due to the new proprietary units (each civ having there own unique unit) and that some of the civs just don't really have such things or atleast they aren't really famous. I mean what unit would the Babylonians have? Will there be the Persian Rugmaker? I think the civs that didn't make the cut are the Babylonians, Indians, Persians, and Sioux. Not really sure about the final tribe I would say Americans but they are already guaranteed and the French probably have the same guarantee so maybe the Aztecs but that would only leave the Americans in control of 2 continents on the world map.

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[Magnus]

maybe less civ's but more flexibility? like the romans can finally square off against the russians?

 

[Damien]

No need to be a

to open encarta and see specific units in a few civs.

And anyway i'm against the specific units.

 

[GenghisK]

Why? I'd love to see a Chambourcy yoghurt laucher unit

Just kidding.
Anyway, indeed, there's is room enough for at least 10 civs to compete on a large world map. But I think the actual reason is tachnical. They'll have to improve the AI while maintaining a reasonable turn duration. So with too many civ, maybe even a Atlon 1GHz can run slow.
Concerning the civ varieties, it's not a problem. If there's no civ-specific unit (like in AoE 1 and 2), what's the point in throwing in too many civ? The custom option is there in fact.

Originally posted by Damien:
Look at Apolyton...

No thanx. I won't .

Hey Håkan, you've never been in Apolyton too, like me?

Welcome to the club, man. Really, I've never ever visited Apolyton.

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[Loaf Warden]

Originally posted by Cedric Greene:
I think that the lack of civs is due to the new proprietary units (each civ having there own unique unit) and that some of the civs just don't really have such things or atleast they aren't really famous.

Well, if that is the reason they're doing it, then this is just one more piece of supporting evidence in my argument that specialized civ-specific units are a bad idea!

If it's not the reason, then I couldn't even speculate on what the reason could be. I can't see that it's a programming problem. I don't know much about computers, but is adding new civs--or even just keeping the number we already have!--really the sort of thing that would make the game harder to program? Would it affect memory or space or speed or anything like that? I don't actually know, but considering what they're doing with computers these days, I rather have to doubt it.

 

[Cedric Greene]

Originally posted by Loaf Warden:
I can't see that it's a programming problem. I don't know much about computers, but is adding new civs--or even just keeping the number we already have!--really the sort of thing that would make the game harder to program? Would it affect memory or space or speed or anything like that? I don't actually know, but considering what they're doing with computers these days, I rather have to doubt it.

Unless they are doing a very in-depth and seperate AI for each leader of each civilzation then the only other logical reason for the cut back is to create an advanced AI to be used for controlling the Unique Units(I have decided to refer to them as UU's from now on) which I would imagine would take up some RAM space while processing and could very well be the reason for 7 civs at a time. I totally agree on getting rid of the UU's. On an unrelated note I was going through my copy of CGW again and noticed there was a picture of Gandhi(along with Mao, Ramesses(sp?), Abe, Caeser, Joan, and Elizabeth) in there so it looks like the Indians made it.


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[TimTheEnchanter]

I would guess one of each color was on the chopping block, then keep 2 around or add the Incas and keep one of these.

White - Celts (Sorry Hippo! But ever since Larry Bird retired, they stink <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif" border=0> )
Dk Blue - Vikings (I would have sacked the Whine & Cheesers, but if Joan of Arc was there... and you've got to figure Napoleon will make the cut)
Yellow - Spanish
Lt. Blue - Rugmakers
Green - Babylon
Purple - Sioux? (Again, I would have axed the Indians, but if Mohandas made the cut...)
Orange - Hannibal and Co.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Spain and the Vikings survive out of this list.
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[Håkan Eriksson]

No, I hope that the Vikings stays. Why cant they kick out the Germans.

Originally posted by GenghisK:
Hey Håkan, you've never been in Apolyton too, like me? <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif" border=0> Welcome to the club, man. Really, I've never ever visited Apolyton.

Acctually I have to confess, I visited aptylon once when i was new to this forum. But belive me that was one time enugh.

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[Damien]

Stop that plz...Vikings,germans and Indians n all other civs are great civs.the world without em wouldn't be the world that we know.Without Germans or Vikings,we would drink less beer...brrr i can't figure this out

Instead,sign a petition for more civs.