Orion's Inquisition Mod

[strategyonly]

You might need to import the following:

import InquisitionEvents

...or you might get some errors. Looks good otherwise.


Orion Veteran

I thought thats why i used CvEventManager to get rid of InquisitionEvents?

But like i said from what i can see, i have ALL InquisitionEvent in the EventManager correctly, as you said, but in YOUR InquisitionEvent you have the stuff: def onBuildingBuilt(self, argsList): below # End # Limited Religions Mod. But in the original
EventManager is before: # National Wonders Play Movies Start ##

Also when the FIRST civ get a religion its always Christianity(pic 1) and i dont have Choose religions marked. I have all the Orion stuff marked as ON.

I got Jewish religion and i havent even researched it yet?? (pic 2 & 3)

Also in pic 4 is the Victory Conditions.

 

[OrionVeteran]

I thought thats why i used CvEventManager to get rid of InquisitionEvents?

But like i said from what i can see, i have ALL InquisitionEvent in the EventManager correctly, as you said, but in YOUR InquisitionEvent you have the stuff: def onBuildingBuilt(self, argsList): below # End # Limited Religions Mod. But in the original
EventManager is before: # National Wonders Play Movies Start ##

You are right. Please delete InquisitionEvents and the reference in favor of your standard BTS Event Manager. Sorry for the bad advice.

Also when the FIRST civ get a religion its always Christianity(pic 1) and i dont have Choose religions marked. I have all the Orion stuff marked as ON.

You need to select Choose Religions in order to activate the popup to pic your own religion.

I got Jewish religion and i havent even researched it yet?? (pic 2 & 3)

That definitely should not be happening. I just tested the modular version, with Choose religions off. The game defaults to standard BTS play. Nothing like what you described happened.

Orion Veteran

 

[strategyonly]

You are right. Please delete InquisitionEvents and the reference in favor of your standard BTS Event Manager. Sorry for the bad advice.

No biggy, everyone does it sooner or later.

You need to select Choose Religions in order to activate the popup to pic your own religion.

But i dont ever use Choose religions thats not what i was saying. I was saying it ACTED like it was, but i didnt select that. I had ALL your Orion's Game Options Status set to 0.

That definitely should not be happening. I just tested the modular version, with Choose religions off. The game defaults to standard BTS play. Nothing like what you described happened.
Orion Veteran

Thats what i was testing YOUR 250D, without any changes, when all this occured.

EDIT: Yeppers tried it again and Christianity ALWAYS comes FIRST. without even being researched? No choose's and all Options marked ON.

 

[Arakhor]

I would definitely be interested in a BUG version of Inquisition (as opposed to a bugged version!)

 

[OrionVeteran]

But i dont ever use Choose religions thats not what i was saying. I was saying it ACTED like it was, but i didnt select that. I had ALL your Orion's Game Options Status set to 0. Thats what i was testing YOUR 250D, without any changes, when all this occured. EDIT: Yeppers tried it again and Christianity ALWAYS comes FIRST. without even being researched? No choose's and all Options marked ON.

I have tested your scenario, with all settings to 0. Over and over again I had reliable steady results and not once did I land a religion between techs. You must have something else wrong, as I cannot duplicate any of your errors. Please check out your onTechAcquired function. Try re-locating the religious founding code below the tech popup part of the function (i.e. your CvEventManager.py file). Check the DoHolyCity and DoHolyCityTech. Both have changed from previous versions and are disabled when playing limited religions. When not in limited religions they found religions as they normally would.

Respectfully,

Orion Veteran

 

[strategyonly]

OK heres what i did:

1. With all turned on, Didnt work, Christianity was first religion??
2. With only respawn on it worked BUT i got another holy city, and should NOT have.
3. With only Respawn OFF, i got Christianity AGAIN first?
4. With Limitied Off and Respawn off i got: Chritanity again first.


btw in MY copy i moved it to where you said, didnt matter, same results.
Again i NEVER play limited religions check marked.

EDIT: I did some more testing and from what i can see, the culprit is having the Limited Religions ON that is causing the Christianity to come FIRST?
EDIT EDIT: Nope i tested two more versions of ON/OFF and i just cant get it to give me ONE holy city per civ.

 

[OrionVeteran]

OK heres what i did:

1. With all turned on, Didnt work, Christianity was first religion??
2. With only respawn on it worked BUT i got another holy city, and should NOT have.
3. With only Respawn OFF, i got Christianity AGAIN first?
4. With Limitied Off and Respawn off i got: Chritanity again first.


btw in MY copy i moved it to where you said, didnt matter, same results.
Again i NEVER play limited religions check marked.

EDIT: I did some more testing and from what i can see, the culprit is having the Limited Religions ON that is causing the Christianity to come FIRST?
EDIT EDIT: Nope i tested two more versions of ON/OFF and i just cant get it to give me ONE holy city per civ.

1. The reason you can't get the game to give only one religion per civ is because you must have Limited Religions turned on. If you have Limited Religions turned off, then you can get multiple Holy Cities per civ.

2. If you want to pick your religion when you discover a religious tech, then you must select the "Choose Religions" option at game start.

3. Lastly, I think you should re-download version 250D and try it again, without merging anything. You will find that it works very nicely.

Respectfully,

Orion Veteran

 

[strategyonly]

1. The reason you can't get the game to give only one religion per civ is because you must have Limited Religions turned on. If you have Limited Religions turned off, then you can get multiple Holy Cities per civ.

2. If you want to pick your religion when you discover a religious tech, then you must select the "Choose Religions" option at game start.

3. Lastly, I think you should re-download version 250D and try it again, without merging anything. You will find that it works very nicely.

Respectfully,

Orion Veteran

If you look at the 1st para, i did say i had it ON. Also para 2??


but ok, i will d/l again and try again, but like i said, i am NOT using MY changes, only what i dl'ed from your site??


EDIT: OK i re-d/led and this time i got Islam and if you look at the pics i'm not even CLOSE to that?? But at least the respawn worked i didnt get another Holy city.

The only one so far i have been able to get to work, was the first one YOU had each separate dds holy offices.

 

[OrionVeteran]

OK i re-d/led and this time i got Islam and if you look at the pics i'm not even CLOSE to that?? But at least the respawn worked i didnt get another Holy city.

I find it impossible to acquire a Holy City, without discovering or trading for a religious tech. This line makes sure the tech discovered is a religious tech:

if Inquisition.isReligiousTech(iTechType):

How your BTS is discovering a Holy City between techs is very strange and is never supposed to happen. It should be impossible, with this line of code working. After several tests, I simply can't reproduce your error on my PC.

Someone once said, "When you have eliminated the impossible whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." I now believe the possibility exists that your version of BTS may be incorrect or has been damaged in some way. I know my next suggestion is a pain in the @$$, but I believe it must be ruled out. I suggest re-installing Civ4 and the latest patch updates from scratch. A clean install of the game may fix your problem , as no one else has said they have the same symptoms as you have.

Respectfully,

Orion Veteran

 

[strategyonly]

OK, here's what i did, i UN-installed everything NO Civ4 at all, from the instructions in the Civ4 - Technical Support area.

Then i re-d/led again, and, well same results. First religion was Islam etc. same as # 368.

So i did ALL that for nothing. But at least i have a newly installed again Civ4, i do it every two months anyways.

 

[OrionVeteran]

OK, here's what i did, i UN-installed everything NO Civ4 at all, from the instructions in the Civ4 - Technical Support area.

Then i re-d/led again, and, well same results. First religion was Islam etc. same as # 368.

So i did ALL that for nothing. But at least i have a newly installed again Civ4, i do it every two months anyways.

Did you install the BTS 3.19 patch?

Why is it that you have 5 instances of the Autosave message on the second picture on post 368?

What folder exactly, did you install the mod? The path should be:

C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Inquisition250D

What kind of computer are you running (i.e. processor, RAM and HD)?

Try this:

1. Defrag your hard drive.
2. Make sure you run only the inquisition mod 250D, without merging anything else.
3. Turn on all features in the GlobalDefinesAlt.xml file (i.e. put a 1 for each option).
4. Select Choose Religions on game start.
5. Select the Religious Victory option on game start.
6. Try a small game of only about 4 civs + one Human player - You.
7. Do not use the AIAutoPlay, but leave it installed.
8. Play 50 rounds and see what happens.



To ALL: Can any one else duplicate this error that strategyonly is experiencing?

Orion Veteran

 

[strategyonly]

Did you install the BTS 3.19 patch?

But of course

Why is it that you have 5 instances of the Autosave message on the second picture on post 368?

I have it set for autosave every turn for late games, is all.

What folder exactly, did you install the mod? The path should be:
C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Inquisition250D

Yes i know, thats the only place i put stuff.

What kind of computer are you running (i.e. processor, RAM and HD)?

Try this:

1. Defrag your hard drive.
2. Make sure you run only the inquisition mod 250D, without merging anything else.
3. Turn on all features in the GlobalDefinesAlt.xml file (i.e. put a 1 for each option).
4. Select Choose Religions on game start.
5. Select the Religious Victory option on game start.
6. Try a small game of only about 4 civs + one Human player - You.
7. Do not use the AIAutoPlay, but leave it installed.
8. Play 50 rounds and see what happens.
To ALL: Can any one else duplicate this error that strategyonly is experiencing?

Orion Veteran

1. OK
2. Like i said i used YOUR stuff withOUT anything else.
3. See pic, all ON.
4. Yes i did, but i HATE this option. I will NEVER EVER use this. I think its stupid, no offense to the ones that do. (My opinion)
5. OK but i NEVER use this either.
6. OK.
7. OK
8. OK

 

[OrionVeteran]

Hmmm.....

I re-posted the down load, as perhaps it might be bad. See if that fixes the problem.

Orion Veteran

 

[strategyonly]

Nope didnt matter, i get Islam first, 2nd was Christianity, and with all ON i dont get anymore holycities?

I should have three holycities now but none listed, not even anything in the religious screen area?

 

[OrionVeteran]

Nope didnt matter, i get Islam first, 2nd was Christianity, and with all ON i dont get anymore holycities?

I should have three holycities now but none listed, not even anything in the religious screen area?

That is just crazy. I think it is time for you to ask the experts, what might be causing this on your PC, because I am out of ideas and I can't reproduce any of your errors.

Orion Veteran

 

[OrionVeteran]

Check out Orion's Grand Inquisition: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=337501

Orion Veteran

 

[cybrxkhan]

Nice work there; I'm also happy you still have the normal inquisition version for modders like me, instead of making a ton of random hooplah mod we'll have to sort through.

 

[phungus420]

Hey OrionVeteran, is there any chance you could add a Religious Victory Movie? It's a hard victory to achieve, the player definitely deserves one for achieving it.

 

[OrionVeteran]

Hey OrionVeteran, is there any chance you could add a Religious Victory Movie? It's a hard victory to achieve, the player definitely deserves one for achieving it.

I agree. I've been waiting for the Religious Victory Movie to be completed. See the following post for the current status:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=8623252#post8623252

Orion Veteran

 

[Ninja2]

A question on the Holy Office:

This is part of the BuildingInfos.xml from Inquisition 250D (notice the bolded part):

<BuildingInfo>
			<BuildingClass>BUILDINGCLASS_JEWISH_HOLY_OFFICE</BuildingClass>
			<Type>BUILDING_JEWISH_HOLY_OFFICE</Type>
			<SpecialBuildingType>SPECIALBUILDING_HOLY_OFFICE</SpecialBuildingType>
			<Description>TXT_KEY_BUILDING_JEWISH_HOLY_OFFICE</Description>
			<Civilopedia>TXT_KEY_BUILDING_JEWISH_HOLY_OFFICE_PEDIA</Civilopedia>
			<Strategy>TXT_KEY_BUILDING_JEWISH_HOLY_OFFICE_STRATEGY</Strategy>
			<Advisor>ADVISOR_RELIGION</Advisor>
			<ArtDefineTag>ART_DEF_BUILDING_JEWISH_HOLY_OFFICE</ArtDefineTag>
			<MovieDefineTag>NONE</MovieDefineTag>
			<HolyCity>NONE</HolyCity>
			<ReligionType>RELIGION_JUDAISM</ReligionType>
			[B]<StateReligion>NONE</StateReligion>[/B]
			<bStateReligion>1</bStateReligion>
			<PrereqReligion>RELIGION_JUDAISM</PrereqReligion>

The point is... when this tag has NONE, I am able to build a Holy Office for each of the religions present in my city. This is under Organized Religion, with Christianity as the State religion, but Judaism is also present in the city. I just tested putting RELIGION_JUDAISM instead of NONE in this tag, and I can then only build the Holy Office that matches my State religion. I think the Holy Offices are plenty powerful as they are, no need to be able to build so many of them.

Fix?