People who fail the Turing test

[Taliesin]

Actually, and this was slightly unsettling, I told Alice my name was Taliesin, and she said something like, "That's a nice name. What's your real name?"

 

[sanabas]

Don't you just love the maturity degree of this thread?

"Oh noes, Oda and Hitro were not convinced by our reasonings in teh Maths thread, let's make a thread about how people like them look likes dumb automatons"

Wonderful .

Nah, the fact you posted an almost identical post 5 times running just made for a good example. Morons in real life are what triggered starting the thread.

As for the Turing test, I'm pretty sure everyone would fail at some point or other by your standards of what constitute "pre-programed answers".

Everyone who participate in any debate on CFC, for a start, since they generally consist of everyone repeating the same damn points over and over again in answer to the same damn other points from the other side.

Not at all, that mostly seems to happen on only two threads, rather than on any debate thread.

Or do they just fail the Turing test if the points they constantly repeats are points you disagree with?

Nope, people I agree with are also perfectly capable of ignoring logic in favour of getting stuck in an infinite posting loop. People who don't read or think, but simply continue to bleat whatever dogma about a particular topic are frustrating, regardless of the dogma they're repeating.

 

[Lotus49]

Most people are sheep, who follow most of what theyr'e told and make up about 70% of the population, about 20% are able to make decisions for themselves about small factors in their lives and can even disagree with the majority!!! Some however are Shephards and they number around 10% of which maybe 1 or 2 actually have an ability not only to think for themselves but to make good decisions for other people.



Because the turing test was set up to equate AI with human intelligence

Most people are stupid. Therefore it's only the peculiarities of human speech and interaction an AI finds difficult to mimic. therefore in fact although 99.9% of people would pass the turing test. That does not make them smarter than a machine

Wrong - 100% are sheep. Some are just smart enough to look outwards beyond the herd (and actually begin to go their own way when they are ready). That would be the 20% you allude to - but make no mistake, they are still indeed sheep. As for the 10%, those guys are just funny. They stand up on a tree stump, spew a bunch of BS, and tell all the other sheep 'how it is'... and the 70% instinctively -so it would seem- indulge them. Comical.

But in the end, no one really knows their place, they just like to think they do. Thus, they're all sheep. And the best thing an individual sheep can do, is identify foolishness, and evade it. Theoretically, if one becomes adept at this, then it's just possible they may actually find some sort of wisdom, eventually. That's my approach. Why waste time with the sheep? You do that, and next thing you know - you're like them. Even the strongest of individuals can't be immune to influence forever. Thus, you must have... distance. Accept no substitute. It's only there, that you can begin to figure things out, for yourself.

 

[El_Machinae]

El Mac has failed the Turing test. I know because he said so!

You remember, that? Wow.

Yeah, he (a co-worker) accused me of failing the Turning Test. In his defense, my email to him hadn't made any sense

 

[ironduck]

It was in your title earlier, I didn't know the background for it

 

[El_Machinae]

My title used to be "passing the Turing Test". I changed it from the default because of this

Tell your chatbot programmer that you just failed the Turing Test

Edit: to be fair to Alice - the software that you're playing with was last updated in 2001. The researchers have done a lot more with their project since then, I'm sure.