PETA at it again

[IglooDame]

The PETA folks never like it when I refer to them as cannibals - after all, it's pretty self-evident that they are at least mental vegetables...

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

I propose that everyone at CFC bands together and forms our own group, People for the Ethical Treatment of Plants(PETP)!

 

[Goober]

Ok, lets reverse things a little. When we pull vegetables out of the ground, are we not killing them, and then mutilating them as we prepare them for dinner or whatever, then cooking them, and eating them like the plant-eating cannibals that we are? You might say:, "RG, that's stupid, Plants don't have feelings!!! D'uh", but what IF plants did have feelings? Huh? Then wouldn't we really be cruelly slaughtering millions of plants every day?

Now, it has been scientifically proven that plants do not have a "brain" that we can figure out, but do we really know? What if plants CAN feel, and Chrolophyll is their blood? Then wouldn't we be really slaughtering them?

Hehe, I love reversing things like this . . .

 

[Amenhotep7]

Originally posted by SuperBeaverInc.
I propose that everyone at CFC bands together and forms our own group, People for the Ethical Treatment of Plants(PETP)!

Amen! I'm in!...Now, to eat those PETAs...

Why am I reminded of that story of the German cannibal?

 

[WillJ]

Originally posted by Turner_727
Honestly, that's one thing I never understood about PETA. Or vegitarians, for that matter.

They say that they don't want to be a part of cruelty to animals. Yet they eat plants. Now, plants may not have a nervous system like we do, but I read somewhere about plants feeling pain. So do they not eat animals because they like them, or do they not eat animals because they hate plants?

Just found this link. While it states that plants don't have an emotion of pain (their term) there are mechanics in place that act just like the pain reflexes us animals have.

So are you (and many people who think like you) saying that we should be comfortable killing and eating everything and anything, or that we shouldn't kill and/or eat anything? Because if it's the latter you'll die very quickly (unless you happen to know how to photosynthesize), and I doubt it's the former, since probability tells me you probably think killing humans is wrong.

The truth is, morality is a cloudy issue because nothing scientifically or objectively points us to what is right and wrong. We all have our own opinions (and for the most part most people agree on most things). While many of you in this thread seem to be perfectly fine sitting at your computer calling PETA a bunch of idiots, you don't realize you're being hypocrits since (I assume) you are all actively against the murder of humans, yet eat animal meat, regardless of the fact that there is no known, easily justified reason that humans deserve to live more than animals, much less if you dare to argue that plants have feelings and vegetarians are morons for eating them but being against eating animals.

Now, don't get me wrong; I'm personally against the killing of humans, and am personally fine (or at least less against) the killing of animals for human use, but I recognize that as my conscience and personal instinct instead of a clear-cut word of God (or something equivalent), and I don't disrespect others for having feelings about cruelty and killing of animals, or refusing to eat them, etc.

Just my $0.02.

 

[newfangle]

If you only eat salt and water you don't have to kill anything.

 

[DBear]

http://www.leftersons.com/panel(289-292, 298-300).shtml

copy the address to your browser and right after panel enter a number in the indicated range with no space between.

 

[Goober]

Hehe, those are pretty funny cartoons. PETA just demands to be ridiculed, their crazy beliefs . . . almost like a cult, although I haven't heard that much about them here in Canada.

 

[Mrogreturns]

Originally posted by WillJ
So are you (and many people who think like you) saying that we should be comfortable killing and eating everything and anything, or that we shouldn't kill and/or eat anything? Because if it's the latter you'll die very quickly (unless you happen to know how to photosynthesize), and I doubt it's the former, since probability tells me you probably think killing humans is wrong.

The truth is, morality is a cloudy issue because nothing scientifically or objectively points us to what is right and wrong. We all have our own opinions (and for the most part most people agree on most things). While many of you in this thread seem to be perfectly fine sitting at your computer calling PETA a bunch of idiots, you don't realize you're being hypocrits since (I assume) you are all actively against the murder of humans, yet eat animal meat, regardless of the fact that there is no known, easily justified reason that humans deserve to live more than animals, much less if you dare to argue that plants have feelings and vegetarians are morons for eating them but being against eating animals.

Now, don't get me wrong; I'm personally against the killing of humans, and am personally fine (or at least less against) the killing of animals for human use, but I recognize that as my conscience and personal instinct instead of a clear-cut word of God (or something equivalent), and I don't disrespect others for having feelings about cruelty and killing of animals, or refusing to eat them, etc.

Just my $0.02.

I think the idiocy is in their methodology. Alienating people is no way to sway them to your cause.

 

[Turner]

Originally posted by WillJ
So are you (and many people who think like you) saying that we should be comfortable killing and eating everything and anything, or that we shouldn't kill and/or eat anything? Because if it's the latter you'll die very quickly (unless you happen to know how to photosynthesize), and I doubt it's the former, since probability tells me you probably think killing humans is wrong.

The truth is, morality is a cloudy issue because nothing scientifically or objectively points us to what is right and wrong. We all have our own opinions (and for the most part most people agree on most things). While many of you in this thread seem to be perfectly fine sitting at your computer calling PETA a bunch of idiots, you don't realize you're being hypocrits since (I assume) you are all actively against the murder of humans, yet eat animal meat, regardless of the fact that there is no known, easily justified reason that humans deserve to live more than animals, much less if you dare to argue that plants have feelings and vegetarians are morons for eating them but being against eating animals.

Now, don't get me wrong; I'm personally against the killing of humans, and am personally fine (or at least less against) the killing of animals for human use, but I recognize that as my conscience and personal instinct instead of a clear-cut word of God (or something equivalent), and I don't disrespect others for having feelings about cruelty and killing of animals, or refusing to eat them, etc.

Just my $0.02.

I'm saying that god created me/evolution evolved me into a herbivorous animal. Eating plants and animals. It's what I am.

It's a little bit different when the animal is raised to be a food supply. It's not like we're going to run out of cows or pigs. I don't advocate killing just cuz. I kill animals (well, not me, but the people I buy meat from) to eat and survive. I don't like killing hamsters, or rabbits, or other animals. Just the tasty ones.

 

[allhailIndia]

Look, you don't have to defend your vegetarianism or propagate your non-vegetarianism; you are as likely to make an impact as Jehovah's Witnesses, instead you'll lose respect for your cause. Somebody should beat that into PETA's head

 

[Martacus]

Originally posted by Speedo
For everyone in need of a(nother) laugh:

http://www.petakids.com/whatif.html

I particularly liked the bit about the horrendous cruelty of zoos.

Why, maybe, just maybe we should let all those big, endangered animals loose! Surely they will return to their natural numbers if we just let them free to propagate on their own! Extinction extinguished!

 

[WillJ]

Originally posted by Mrogreturns
I think the idiocy is in their methodology. Alienating people is no way to sway them to your cause.

You're right, I should have made that more clear. Sometimes PETA can indeed be a bunch of idiots, because of the way they do things (and the way they sometimes grossly overreact), but it seems to me like some people think of them as idiots--or at least strange--because of their basic ideology.

Originally posted by Turner_727
I'm saying that god created me/evolution evolved me into a herbivorous animal. Eating plants and animals. It's what I am.

I'm confused. Do you mean omnivorous?

Originally posted by Turner_727
It's a little bit different when the animal is raised to be a food supply. It's not like we're going to run out of cows or pigs. I don't advocate killing just cuz. I kill animals (well, not me, but the people I buy meat from) to eat and survive. I don't like killing hamsters, or rabbits, or other animals. Just the tasty ones.

Fine with me, and same here.

 

[Sickman]

Originally posted by WillJ

While many of you in this thread seem to be perfectly fine sitting at your computer calling PETA a bunch of idiots, you don't realize you're being hypocrits since (I assume) you are all actively against the murder of humans, yet eat animal meat, regardless of the fact that there is no known, easily justified reason that humans deserve to live more than animals, much less if you dare to argue that plants have feelings and vegetarians are morons for eating them but being against eating animals.

PETA are bunch of silly folk.
Saying them idiots is flattering them.
I have met this kind of people in Europe and they are like nine-year olds trying to struggle with their minds how world works.

And I'm not hypocrite.
I see human as animal and I enjoy eating animal meat but because humans are the same specie and I don't like the aftertaste that's for I don't eat them and that's why I don't have really care to kill them.
And of course there's the point that some people would get rather upset if I would eat their relatives (close relatives at least).

And this thread has been like filled with fresh air.

 

[Mano3]

I'm on the Atkin's Diet, so... Mmmmmm.... meat good.... animals, tasty.....

I've lost 4 pounds in 4 days!

 

[WillJ]

Originally posted by Sickman
PETA are bunch of silly folk.
Saying them idiots is flattering them.
I have met this kind of people in Europe and they are like nine-year olds trying to struggle with their minds how world works.

You're right, I mistyped my post. It's not PETA I'm defending, but people who hold their ideology in general.

Originally posted by Sickman
And I'm not hypocrite.
I see human as animal and I enjoy eating animal meat but because humans are the same specie and I don't like the aftertaste that's for I don't eat them and that's why I don't have really care to kill them.
And of course there's the point that some people would get rather upset if I would eat their relatives (close relatives at least).

I know quite a few relatives I wouldn't mind getting rid of.

While I understand you saying you don't like the aftertaste (although I have to admit I'm a bit suspicious as to how you know that), and that you'd get in trouble if you ate human, why does the fact that humans are the same species matter?

Originally posted by Sickman
And this thread has been like filled with fresh air.

Huh?

 

[h4ppy]

Originally posted by RealGoober
Ok, lets reverse things a little. When we pull vegetables out of the ground, are we not killing them, and then mutilating them as we prepare them for dinner or whatever, then cooking them, and eating them like the plant-eating cannibals that we are? You might say:, "RG, that's stupid, Plants don't have feelings!!! D'uh", but what IF plants did have feelings? Huh? Then wouldn't we really be cruelly slaughtering millions of plants every day?

Now, it has been scientifically proven that plants do not have a "brain" that we can figure out, but do we really know? What if plants CAN feel, and Chrolophyll is their blood? Then wouldn't we be really slaughtering them?

Hehe, I love reversing things like this . . .

I will take some time to correct you. Chlorophyll is not like blood because blood is made of cells while chlorophyll is part of cells. However plants do have bloodvessel like systems. (I forget the name)

 

[Sickman]

Originally posted by WillJ

You're right, I mistyped my post. It's not PETA I'm defending, but people who hold their ideology in general.I know quite a few relatives I wouldn't mind getting rid of.

While I understand you saying you don't like the aftertaste (although I have to admit I'm a bit suspicious as to how you know that), and that you'd get in trouble if you ate human, why does the fact that humans are the same species matter?Huh?

Well,
the aftertaste part was joke.
But I believe the whole despise towards cannibalism is in fact done by nature to protect us from eating each other out.
Of course as cultivated specie we are, we are able to skip that nature rule sometimes so we can survive.

And I have no problem about PETA if they would actually made sense in their holding of ideology, but they don't and also I don't like anyone telling what I should do and what I don't.

It's different to suggest that we could eat less meat than try to force people stop eating meat.

 

[Maj]

In a way I pity the PETA folk. Hyper-empathic, it would seem. Might explain the irrational behaviour. At a quick glance, not as bad as the Fruitopians, though.

 

[DBear]

from Australian Broadcasting

Goodbye Slaughterville, hello Veggieville?
A vegetarian group wants a US town named after a family that helped settle the state to change its name to Veggieville because they think it sounds a lot better than Slaughterville.

The city council of Slaughterville in Oklahoma, a town of about 3,000 in the centre of the state, is due to discuss the proposal by the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) next week.

PETA is even offering $US20,000 worth of veggie burgers to an area school if the name change goes through.

But town manager Marsha Blair said the chances of passage were slim to none.
"We do not intend to change the name," she said.

PETA campaign manager Bruce Friedrich says the organisation is focusing its resources on the cruelty to animals that are killed for the food and clothing industries in slaughterhouses.

"Even if the people of Slaughterville are not looking at the cruelty to farmed animals as an issue, it is a fact that anyone, including the residents of Slaughterville, who is eating meat, is supporting the felony level of abuse of animals," he said.

Slaughterville was named after a family that helped settle the area in the 19th century. The family ran a dry goods store and blacksmith shop.

Veggieville?
Gawds, these people are nutters.