PH17: pholkhero and the Holy Grail

[pholkhero]

nice to be post 420 in the thread

okay, not much to report but building things, units mostly. I think we should attack sooner rather than later. in fact, i think it should be next set if possible, the one after at the latest. I think we should take on the khan and him alone, and worry little about attacks from teh vassals (well, worry some, but don't devote an army to conquering them; instead, we worry about breaking khan to free them). they have large armies in their own right, and going after protective chinese ruler is not my idea of fun.

Khan's army is in the western part of his empire:

(those are the two cav's on the screen there)

we should move in from the west adn the east:

Assault Forces Black Hammer and White Lightning will strike first into Old Mongolia. it is sparsely defended, but we still need some forces. we have enuf canons either built or in the queue, but we need a more cossacks (more than the ones that we're building that is), plus some riflemen to defend our new conquests. This is the only thing we're waiting for. Once the assualt forces are ready, I think we should move. Use the cossacks for all they're worth.

The Big One then moves from the west, hoping to engage Khan's army in Shanghai, preferably (i think) AFTER we've conquered it. however, we should be prepared to take the army out bvefore taking the city.

in other news, the FPalace was finished adn we got another GM. part of me wants to join them both to Moscow, while another wants to wait the 12 turns until the next GP comes due from our farm and see if we can get another GA. might be nice to have during our attack.

we also need to make sure our borders with china and spain are reinforced...

finally, i mm'ed so you might want to re-check the cities


now or never, es!
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[Talamane]

nice to be post 420 in the thread

My sons would be proud.

But you played over my 1770AD save, so to paraphrase:

"Playing an SG with pholkhero is so much fun that you hardly notice that you've played."

Let's just keep going. I didn't do anything magical or earth-shattering.

 

[pholkhero]

i guess that is appropriate

forget me~ I will play and repost tomorrow. sorry guys.

 

[Talamane]

Well, if you are going to play from my save, please note that i have moved a majority of our forces nearly into our territory. I reasoned that it would be better if we had the freedom to either attack from east or west, or both, and freedom as to the disposition and strength of those forces.

I like the plan.

 

[Whosit]

i guess that is appropriate

forget me~ I will play and repost tomorrow. sorry guys.

Well at least you came up with cool strike force names.

The plan seems sound, and I imagine that you'll be gearing up for something similar. Though in the . . . west? Shanghai, do you mean to engage Khan's army in the field, or let them come to us and destroy them?

 

[Ozbenno]

Fight them on the beaches I say...

 

[pholkhero]

Okay, take two...

just as uneventful as take one...

the highlights:

I went with RR next to help with movement of units.

we also have all of our armies in place, with some reserves still being built. as you can see, we just got the GS, and can now start another GAge. Taht would be my recommendation, and then get the war started.

one problem: khan has 40 cav right now plus other filler units so my solution is to declare, and move on Shanghai. as i said, i think we should abandon...eh, that other city surrounded by chinese culture, and move those rifles into our stack by Machu Pichu, and use it to move on Shanghai. *hopefully* that will draw khans army westward. after that, we can move our two strike forces into mongolia and move on his eastern cities.

unfortunately, i think it may be now or never as far as this war and us winning this game. i dont' think we'llbe able to compete with KK for much longer on Immortal with an empire almost twcie our size so let's go GA and roll out!!

nocho up again

 

[nocho]

Moi again? Wasn't this YOUR holy grail?

Will look at the save tomorrow and god knows when I'll get my guts together to try and take on 3 immortal AIs at the same time. :suicide:

 

[Whosit]

Hah hah, glad I'm not in your shoes nocho! I'd probably come up with some extravagant scheme that would backfire somehow. That seems to be the pattern in this game. Anyway, we're all rooting for you!

 

[pholkhero]

Moi again? Wasn't this YOUR holy grail?

Will look at the save tomorrow and god knows when I'll get my guts together to try and take on 3 immortal AIs at the same time. :suicide:

to be fair, moai was Tally's.

Hah hah, glad I'm not in your shoes nocho! I'd probably come up with some extravagant scheme that would backfire somehow. That seems to be the pattern in this game. Anyway, we're all rooting for you!

somehow, part of me beleives will put it off.

 

[Talamane]

Yes, moai was my . All that for three hammers. Well, Scythian is for drafting anyway.

 

[nocho]

to be fair, moai was Tally's.

Pardon my french? I was not talking about Moai, but about moi... Although yeah, now you mention, might as well unqueue Moai.

somehow, part of me beleives will put it off.

Which part? Oh well, never mind.

Anyway, this daunting set scares me a bit still, so it'll be later this week. Or are there any volunteers?

 

[Whosit]

If you want to go down in flaming glory, I could give it a shot. But not really, I'm up in other places, so . . . .

Maybe we each should, like, look at the save and actually, you know, make a coherent strategy together. Or is that a bit too far out?

 

[Talamane]

Maybe we each should, like, look at the save and actually, you know, make a coherent strategy together. Or is that a bit too far out?

Sounds good. Downloaded file. I haven't looked yet, but:

We do have infantry now. We could stop research and upgrade a bunch of our rifles to infantry. Put the M3 general in a big stack of inf and go, go, go.

This map is hammer poor, which is why we haven't seen really big stacks of doom. Basically, everything we have got has been whipped. The AI is relying on its bonuses.

Not sure if KK has any river tiles in his cities that can exploit a levee.

More later.

 

[pholkhero]

perhaps the best bet may be to go with a GA, save up money for the upgrades and go all in?

idk...i think the longer we wait, the less chance we'll have, but then again, i've never played immortal before....

in any case, i think bad turns might be better than no turns at this point

 

[Whosit]

in any case, i think bad turns might be better than no turns at this point

You may have a point there.

Not like I've really contributed after all. Anyway, I think that nocho's out of commission for a bit, so were you planning to take it, pholk? Or should we draw straws for this one?

(I hope the Christmas smilies go away soon.)

 

[Talamane]

Let's see. MC-Red is out, and nocho is out of action. Draw straws?

 

[mc-red]

I can play tomorrow. If you guys are ok with that. I was consistent at the start but the last few weeks were unavoidable.

 

[pholkhero]

red, you take it as i just had it before nocho...i think we're nearing the end, for good or for ill, anyway

 

[mc-red]

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