I'm not able to wrap my head around the concept that we are somehow creating or destroying matter/energy by moving it forward or backwards in time. There really is no constant value to an infinite is there?
That is why I included the second example of something anchored outside of time. If you don't follow that either, it is hard to explain. I can try again though if need be.
?? Infinity is not a value, it is an idea. What are you asking here?
I can agree with some of your statements and its nice to see more agreement in this than disagreement. But why is it so impossible to consider that there are infinite layers of overlapping timestreams? Without such a concept in play, indeed there are serious logic flaws with 99% of timetravel theories.
I don't believe it is impossible. In a manner of speaking I agree with you; but those "overlapping timestreams" are confined to specific dimensions in which something can change. Think string theory. Something that is eternal (self-existent; exists independently of time) such as a string in string theory cannot literally move through time because time is only an aspect of the string's existence that occurs because of the string's ability to "vibrate" (i.e. change).
I think part of the argument you are presenting really hinges on a paradigm that revolves around the infinitely debateable reality as Objective vs reality as Perspective.
LOL. Not really. The funny thing is that in a sense, we are talking from the same perspective. I believe that perspective is at least as basic to reality as it's "objective" qualities. The only difference is that I believe in both.
In some ways, you are right that for the one who moves in time (which we all do at a fairly steady pace that SEEMS to travel along a constant due to our ability to measure it in an objective manner), they are self constant and their experience of the motion of time through a time portal would be completely relative to them, but for the more 'objective' timestream, there's nothing to say it could not be done.
Unfortunately, time
doesn't move along at a steady pace. Einstein predicted and we have actually observed that time actually changes the rate at which it ticks (moves differently) depending on the speed of the object and the amount of gravity (matter) in it's vicinity. This is one reason why Einstein concluded that space and time are actually inseparable as dimensions.
The argument that "If you want to believe that time travel is possible, you will have to believe that you can create something out of nothing; that the laws of conservation are not correct" does not apply because to move something is not to create it nor destroy it. You are locking onto creation and destruction as being only within the span of the timeframe we are currently in, and in this case, sure, why shouldn't it be possible to create or destroy utilizing time-portation?
Yes it does apply. And your model proves it. The "problem" here is that you are viewing time as a dimension that is separable from space. You are also assuming that existence is subservient to time. If that were true, then you would be right and so would I. If existence were subservient to time (in other words, if existence were an aspect of time), then matter could be created and destroyed. It could wink (technically vibrate) in and out of existence. And since time is the ultimate substrate of reality, it could be moved through.
However, if time is an aspect of existence (specifically an object's existence), then something that self-exists independent of time can only experience time as an aspect of reality. Moving through time at will is impossible because ultimately, the object exists independent of time. It is the same thing as believing that an object can be in two places at once.
(Besides that, even general 'rules' of physics are laws that perhaps may not 'naturally' be defied but why could they not be defied with the application of technology or powerful belief?)
Because technology and belief will never be able to do something that is self-contradictory.
Do you have equal objection to Teleportation as a general whole then?
That depends on... the nature of what is being "teleported." The short answer is no. However I do not believe that teleportation is possible without involving other aspects of reality that are not considered part of understood science.
To give a specific example: it has been experimentally observed that two photons which are "entangled" at the quantum level will affect each other simultaneously regardless of the space (distance) that exists between them. If a quantum change occurs in one, the other will experience the same change simultaneously. There is no ordinary explanation for this except that the two photons are connected in some way that cannot be measured using dimensions that we currently have access too within the bounds of understood science. Apparently, their is something about energy that is not bound by space itself. Therefore, I can conclude that it may be possible to connect two points in space through means (or dimensions) that science cannot currently access. However, I do not believe that something can simply disappear from one point in space and suddenly appear in another point in space without something that connects those two points. That would also violate self-existence.
And just because some alternative ways of explaining Tachyon motion have been floated and are equally as rational does not discount the possibility that the original theories regarding their anomalous measurements could yet be correct. Once more, the belief of the observer at that sort of level does note-worthily adjust the actual measurable results of subatomic study.
Again, please do not speak of tachyons as though they exist. They are theoretical particles only. And those theories have problems.
And its going to always be true that C2C is not for the impatient. But don't let the comments of the others badger your freedom to express your opinions here - I've always appreciated the input even if we're not always in agreement, and I really appreciate the tasks you've taken on for us!
LOL. Well said. On that note... I wish we had a sub forum here for off topic discussion. I love philosophising like this. It is always interesting. However, we should probably be careful not to stray too far.