pigswill
fly (one day)
If we can upgrade even a few cats to cannon (expensive) then we should be able to inflict enough collateral with a decent survival rate to help our maces. Hwachas do of course get a bonus vs melee so that could be interesting.
Pholkheros Aggressive Adventures: Hannibal
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Meatbuster
formerly Robo Kai
Hmm... maybe add a few xbows/lbows/horse archers/elephants to help absorb hwacha attacks...
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negyvenketto
Scientist
Got it and playing. Will upgrade for cannons and have some fun 
pigswill
fly (one day)
Thinking about it the strongest defender against hwachas is likely to be cannon which are immune to collateral damage.
negyvenketto
Scientist
Started with a trade, we will need happiness soon 
Set research rate to 0% for 9 turns to upgrade CR maces and catas.
Got a nice event in capital
Next turn Notre Dame was built somewhere, never mind.
I used our GE to finish Iron Works in the top production city, I hope it's OK with you. (It seemed better than any available WWonder.)
A surprise from Orange Lincoln,
Let's see what you can offer
Your days are over
They have some fun
So do we
Research: next turn we will finish Guilds, I would take Music next for culture slider (WW).
Set research rate to 0% for 9 turns to upgrade CR maces and catas.
Got a nice event in capital
Next turn Notre Dame was built somewhere, never mind.
I used our GE to finish Iron Works in the top production city, I hope it's OK with you. (It seemed better than any available WWonder.)
A surprise from Orange Lincoln,
Let's see what you can offer
Your days are over
They have some fun
So do we
Research: next turn we will finish Guilds, I would take Music next for culture slider (WW).
Spoiler :
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
thank you guys for keeping the game moving ~ RL and MP sucked me in deeply this weekend. 1000 apologies for the "Worst. Report. Ever." (TM)
good turns, negy. i was checking every couple of turns to see if lincoln liked us enough, same with Suleiman. At least now it makes a bit of sense that our land and OL's are one and the same. I think this game is truly well in hand for us. Let's vassal WK, and then move on to Blue Lincoln ~ i may even only have another turnset to go in this game
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Kikinit
good turns, negy. i was checking every couple of turns to see if lincoln liked us enough, same with Suleiman. At least now it makes a bit of sense that our land and OL's are one and the same. I think this game is truly well in hand for us. Let's vassal WK, and then move on to Blue Lincoln ~ i may even only have another turnset to go in this game
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Meatbuster
formerly Robo Kai
Yeah, the old world is "small".
And if we Vassal up Wang, we don't even need to worry about any of his New World colonies (if he has any).
Looks like this game could be drawing to a quick close...
And if we Vassal up Wang, we don't even need to worry about any of his New World colonies (if he has any).
Looks like this game could be drawing to a quick close...
pigswill
fly (one day)
Got it.
Looks like a straight forward march on Seoul via Pyongyang.
Looks like a straight forward march on Seoul via Pyongyang.
negyvenketto
Scientist
I have traded map with our
Lincoln and it has some info about the New World. I could see roads on it. Not clear does it belong to a barbarian city or a colony ...
pigswill
fly (one day)
Slow progress this round.
1410. Blue Abe makes us an offer that we can refuse:
We make him an offer he can't:
By the time he gets round to completing any universities our grenadiers will be marching through Washington. Meanwhile he can waste hammers on building them (assuming he survives the war with Sally).
Guilds>Banking (time to chase economics then RP and rifles (oops, forgot we were meant to be researching music (tho its around as trade fodder by the end of the set)).
Upgrade a trireme to caravel to start exploring the 'new world'.
Start HE in Constantinople (ironworks city).
1420. Sally at peace with Wang.
1425. Sulemain proves the world is round.
Banking>Economics.
Revolt to mercantilism (2 turns anarchy). Our empire is big enough by now that the AIs are getting richer from their trade routes with us than we are from our trade routes with them. Representation also boosts the value of the free specialists.
1435. Capture P'yongyang. Costs us 2 CR3cannon (CG3 LBs are tough):
That should help reduce WW
1450
Thessaolonica has just started NE(no hammers yet, it was building a library. I'm not totally convinced this is the right spot but it can support 5 specialists and it wasn't doing anything else (tho will need buildings or caste).
Some cities have been building grocers as they get to health caps.
We've now got 5 universities, need one more for Oxford.
We've got a stack near Seoul:
And another near Hyanguan:
Harrapan is out of revolt next turn.
Economics completes next turn (free GM).
Save:
1410. Blue Abe makes us an offer that we can refuse:
We make him an offer he can't:
By the time he gets round to completing any universities our grenadiers will be marching through Washington. Meanwhile he can waste hammers on building them (assuming he survives the war with Sally).
Guilds>Banking (time to chase economics then RP and rifles (oops, forgot we were meant to be researching music (tho its around as trade fodder by the end of the set)).
Upgrade a trireme to caravel to start exploring the 'new world'.
Start HE in Constantinople (ironworks city).
1420. Sally at peace with Wang.
1425. Sulemain proves the world is round.
Banking>Economics.
Revolt to mercantilism (2 turns anarchy). Our empire is big enough by now that the AIs are getting richer from their trade routes with us than we are from our trade routes with them. Representation also boosts the value of the free specialists.
1435. Capture P'yongyang. Costs us 2 CR3cannon (CG3 LBs are tough):
That should help reduce WW
1450
Thessaolonica has just started NE(no hammers yet, it was building a library. I'm not totally convinced this is the right spot but it can support 5 specialists and it wasn't doing anything else (tho will need buildings or caste).
Some cities have been building grocers as they get to health caps.
We've now got 5 universities, need one more for Oxford.
We've got a stack near Seoul:
And another near Hyanguan:
Harrapan is out of revolt next turn.
Economics completes next turn (free GM).
Save:
·Imhotep·
Legendary Builder
lurker's comment:
You can't dominate this game and win ! This would be against everything pholk's SGs stand for...
(read: pretty impressive play so far !)
You can't dominate this game and win ! This would be against everything pholk's SGs stand for...
(read: pretty impressive play so far !)
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
technically, it's not in the PH series, so a win is okay 
Meatbuster
formerly Robo Kai
I guess it's my turn to steamroll the cannons over Korea.
Got it, playing in 14-18 hours.
Well as far as aggressive is, everyone seemed to be declaring war on everyone else... and we've been at war for almost the entire game.
Got it, playing in 14-18 hours.
Well as far as aggressive is, everyone seemed to be declaring war on everyone else... and we've been at war for almost the entire game.
Meatbuster
formerly Robo Kai
Pre-turn:
Whip Courthouse at Harappan due to massive starvation there.
circa 1455AD:
Economics is in, head to Replaceable Parts to go on the way to Rifling.
Great Merchant is in, lightbulb for 1/2 of Repleaceable Parts.
Lose a Cannon at the battle of Hyangsan...
We get a Great General.
circa 1460AD:
Begin the Siege of Seoul by knocking down its defenses.
Hyangsan falls before the might of Carthage.
circa 1465AD:
Blue Lincoln loses Atlanta to the Ottoman Turks. Washington remains, and all of Blue Lincoln's continental property is finished.
Lose a Cannon at the Siege of Seoul.
circa 1470AD:
The Siege of Seoul continues.
Head for Rifling after Replaceable Parts.
Settle Great General at Constantinople.
circa 1475AD:
Sally joins Suleiman and declares war on Lincoln Blue.
It took a couple of turns, but once again, they are no match for Carthage.
circa 1480AD:
I personally didn't expect this much help from Orange Lincoln in this war
circa 1490AD:
Begin the siege of Pusan.
circa 1495AD:
Blue loses Buffalo to the Ottoman Empire.
circa 1500AD:
Our troops bombard Wonsan.
Some bad luck later (1 grenadier and 2 cannons Slain!?!?), Pusan is forcibly joined to Mighty Carthage.
Whip Courthouse at Harappan due to massive starvation there.
circa 1455AD:
Economics is in, head to Replaceable Parts to go on the way to Rifling.
Great Merchant is in, lightbulb for 1/2 of Repleaceable Parts.
Lose a Cannon at the battle of Hyangsan...
We get a Great General.
circa 1460AD:
Begin the Siege of Seoul by knocking down its defenses.
Hyangsan falls before the might of Carthage.
circa 1465AD:
Blue Lincoln loses Atlanta to the Ottoman Turks. Washington remains, and all of Blue Lincoln's continental property is finished.
Lose a Cannon at the Siege of Seoul.
circa 1470AD:
The Siege of Seoul continues.
Head for Rifling after Replaceable Parts.
Settle Great General at Constantinople.
circa 1475AD:
Sally joins Suleiman and declares war on Lincoln Blue.
It took a couple of turns, but once again, they are no match for Carthage.
circa 1480AD:
I personally didn't expect this much help from Orange Lincoln in this war
circa 1490AD:
Begin the siege of Pusan.
circa 1495AD:
Blue loses Buffalo to the Ottoman Empire.
circa 1500AD:
Our troops bombard Wonsan.
Some bad luck later (1 grenadier and 2 cannons Slain!?!?), Pusan is forcibly joined to Mighty Carthage.
Meatbuster
formerly Robo Kai
1500AD seems like a good place to stop, as it's a round year, some more Korean cities crumbled, and Rifling comes in for 1 turn.
I forgot to trade for Music, so next player may do so.
Also we have a small stack at Adrianople ready for the next war with the Ottoman Empire, after mop up and vassalize Korea.
Plus we need to decide where to put the Forbidden Palace soon.
Let's go! Everyone is less than half our score, but the Ottomans are close to Grenadiers, and have a lot of land. Saladin also.
I forgot to trade for Music, so next player may do so.
Also we have a small stack at Adrianople ready for the next war with the Ottoman Empire, after mop up and vassalize Korea.
Plus we need to decide where to put the Forbidden Palace soon.
Let's go! Everyone is less than half our score, but the Ottomans are close to Grenadiers, and have a lot of land. Saladin also.
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
great turns ~ as Im said, we're well on our way to a win. this is going SO much better than PH09! let's keep focusing on military techs; have we finally gotten a source of horses? if not, can we demand one from OLincoln?? It sure seems like this continent may be enough for Dom, but conquest by vassal seems an option as well.
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Meatbuster
formerly Robo Kai
Well after exploring the shore of the new world, I'm guessing the new world is quite big.
berserks01
Obviously Very Confused
Oh, ok. I've got it, but won't play til Friday. So if someone wants it before then, please feel free to do so.
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
I'll be OoP this weekend starting in about 12 hours, but as you all know
Beserks is UP NOW and can play today
Kikinit is on deck
Beserks is UP NOW and can play today
Kikinit is on deck
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