Piffle Communication Thread

1889 · Mar 21, 2007

Got a PM from killercane of Piffle:

Hi,

I know Theoden is Foreign Ambassador to Piffle but I never seem to catch him on. Can our teams have a pow wow soon to discuss the game and tech deals? If you are fully allied with Aloha we can do a 3 way talk. Let us know!

KC

The guy is in Tennessee so maybe it's a time zone problem.

Sorry KC but I'm on vacation for a few weeks so can't really do it. I asked Theo to get in touch and I'm sure he'll find some time that works out or find someone else who can.

Looking forward to it.
1889 of Innovia

Theoden · Mar 22, 2007

Chat with Killercane of Piffle (warning, very long):

Spoiler :

An important piece of information we got is that Epsilon is planning to attack Loco!

Some of the possibilities discussed:
- turning against Aloha, piffle taking epsilon and we take loco, then hopefully only us and piffle left
- us/piffle/aloha vs epsilon and splitting the lands etc. between the three of us, (would mean loco would be free to conquer for us)
- various tech deals, they're in the log

1889 · Mar 22, 2007

Well that's a lot to consider. The most worrisome part to me is that galleons that can attack Loco can attack us quite easily too and will also sweep our galleys from the sea. We are going to need some navy techs.

Lord Parkin · Mar 22, 2007

Interesting. I'll need a bit of time to think about this. Do Epsilon know we're also planning on attacking Loco?

dutchfire · Mar 23, 2007

There seems to be some confusion about how the world looks. I'll give you a overview of the world. Our western warrior has seen Epsilon borders recently.

1889 · Mar 23, 2007

So it seems they want to make a plan for the rest of the game, but I think it’s too early to decide. Especially since they can’t attack Epsilon until 1260 AD (about 40 more turns).

I’d suggest we let them know that we would be very unhappy if they attack Aloha so maybe the best plan is fore them to keep expanding.

I trust you to work out the tech deals but I’d love to have Astronomy, for the galleons and the trade routes.

One thing I’d like to verify: He said that Epsilon is planning on sailing to Loco in Galleons, but I don’t think they have Astronomy yet, so did he mean galleys or are they planning to wait for that tech?

dutchfire · Mar 29, 2007

Dutchfire,

Thank you for the offer. However, we would be more interested in happiness resources if you have any of those to spare. Do you? And what of our other proposals with Theoden? We really need a response from you guys soon, or we will assume it is a "No." Have a good one!

KC

So, what should we do?

1889 · Mar 29, 2007

That was a long chat so maybe we should ask them to reiterate the precise question they want answered. Here is a suggestion incase Theoden is not able to post anything. P.S. I don't have a spell checker right now.

We are happy to trade techs and resources as a means to improving our relations. When it comes time to finally face Epsilon, a history of trust and cooperation will be a necessary prerequisite for the type of military alliance you suggest.

dutchfire · Mar 29, 2007

We are happy to trade techs and resources as a means to improving(improve) our relations. When it ~~comes~~ is time to finally face Epsilon, a history of trust and cooperation will be a necessary prerequisite for the type of military alliance you suggest.

Spellchecking by a not native speaker

I'd say that we don't have any other excess resources than clam (that's correct isn't it?). Therefor that's the only reasonable trade we can do.

1889 · Mar 30, 2007

Dosen't anybody need our silks?

dutchfire · Mar 30, 2007

To Killercane:

Killercane,

Sorry for our late response, but with Theoden on holiday, our foreign department is having some problems (basically it has stopped existing ).

First, about the resource trade, we've got silk to spare, so we could trade for that. However, fish for silk wouldn't be a very fair deal in our opinion. We value happiness over health. But if you could throw a bit more, then I'm pretty sure we could agree on it.

Second, is your team interested in doing some sort of technology trade? We would be very interested in Printing Press. I believe that we're up Guilds, Feudalism (?) and Horsebackriding on you. Of course, this tech deal would include that we won't trade printing press with any other team, and you won't trade our techs to any other team.

Third, about the long term, our fear mostly lies with Epsilon. They've just closed borders with us, and if they attempt to attack Loco, they'll get very close to our lands. Therefor we're very happy to cooperate with you by making trades so we'll both stand stronger against Epsilon. A total military alliance is an option, but we'd like to think that option through longer because it's a very big move to make.

Looking forward to hearing from you,
Dutchfire

dutchfire · Apr 2, 2007

No reply sofar,
Theoden, could you offer them clams for fish again? And perhaps Horsebackriding for Compass (though that deal is in our advantage).

1889 · Apr 4, 2007

I think we should offer open border to Piffle. It may give us an extreamly valuable trade route to Aloha but it will also help improve relations with them, a neccesary first step in prying them away from Epsilon. The only down side is that they get to strole through our lands, but Epsilon has already seen most of the good stuff anyway.

Lord Parkin · Apr 5, 2007

Silence from Piffle doesn't sound too good...

1889 · Apr 5, 2007

Plan B is to kill that warrior. We can do it from the sea, they'd never know what hit them.

Theoden · Apr 6, 2007

I've now sent a message saying we would like to have open borders with them. We should probably offer it in-game as well next turn.

1889 · Apr 6, 2007

OK, so no votes to kill their warrior then?

Theoden · Apr 6, 2007

1889 said:
OK, so no votes to kill their warrior then?

Nah, I don't feel like creating international incidents at the moment.

1889 · May 12, 2007

The OB agreement has expired. We can cancel at any time. I sugest we tell them that our scout was killed before he got back to their territory so since it does us no good we are cancelling. (This should put their warrior in a distanc sector where he can not sit on a hill and spy.) Another option is to play nice and let them pay to stay.

Theoden · May 12, 2007

Don't you think this would create unneccesary diplomatic tensions at a time where we need to be on good terms with every other than Loco? And aren't we depending on that OB to have a route to Aloha?

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