Pre-Dreadnought Battleships ??

cemo1956

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I have search high and low (but perhaps not good enough) to try and find some really fine pre-dreadnought batleships.
I have come across Wyrmshadows fine CasemateBB, but that is all I am afraid to say.
Many fine and very different such BB roamed the sea before HMS Dreadbought was launched. The 1870-1900 had many nations build very different so called Battleships with an array of different guns aboard.

I include this fine article on wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-dreadnought_battleship
so that perhaps someone know of more already made on this forum, but perhaps also to inspire future creations of these very nice ships.

I do recall that Wyrmshadow once fiddled around with USS Texas, but I might be wrong....

Any hints or help will be appreciated.
 
I do recall that Wyrmshadow once fiddled around with USS Texas, but I might be wrong....

Any hints or help will be appreciated.

yes but the New York class was definately post-dreadnought.
 
yes but the New York class was definately post-dreadnought.

I was thinking on the USS Texas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Texas_(1892) so I was wrong...

and
I was looking at your fine Victorian thread, but I was hoping to find ships like from this majestic-class or similar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majestic_class_battleship or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Sovereign_class_battleship


The CasemateBB is the one I find most useful in the time between Ironclads, HMS Warrior and the Dreadnought.

The Greek ship mentioned was I believe a cruiser. Wyrmshadows superfine Armored cruiser and his WW1 Lightcruiser fill that gap very fine.
However I do recall that the CasemateBB was some sort of Wyrm hybrid...

The fine Monarch Coastal BB looks like a smaller Turretships like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Devastation_(1871)
a ship that can be fitted in that gap, but it would look greater with those Majestics or even the Japanese pre-dreadnought Mikasa, that was commanded by Admiral Togo at the Battle of Tsushima

Great wishful thinking and dreaming gents.
 
The first Texas was a pre-dreadnought battleship patterned after the design of the USS Maine, and mounted two 12 inch guns in single gun turrets, offset to port and starboard in an attempt to achieve maximum ahead fire. In practice, that proved to be impossible. It played a major role in the Battle off Santiago in the Spanish-American War.

The first modern New York was an armored cruiser mounting six 8 inch guns, and served as Admiral Sampson's flagship at the Battle off Santiago in the Spanish-American War.

For any one looking to create a large number of pre-dreadnought battleships, I would recommend Oscar Parke's British Battleships, Jane's Fighting Ships 1905 or 1906, or a copy of Brassey's Naval Annual from between 1886 up through the 1914 edition. A good source on some alternative designs for both the pre-dreadnought and dreadnought period is Norman Friedmann's U. S. Battleship Design and Development.
 
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