Pre-FC/CrezNES Thread: 1836

Gr8t.
 
U got the wrong colorado river. There one in texas too.
You're only 6 hours behind and still about $10/km² under the Alaska Purchase. :goodjob:
 
友好友好條約/The Treaty of Amity and Friendship

1. The Qing Empire grants the East India Company and such agents as it might seem fit to appoint the exclusive right to trade opium with the same.

2. The Qing Empire grants the East India Company and such agents as it might seem fit to appoint the right to build and maintain docks, warehouses &etc in Hong Kong at the discretion of the East India Company and in approved ports at the discretion of the Qing Empire.

3. The East India Company agrees to sell opium exclusively to the state of the Qing Empire and such agents as it might see fit to appoint at approved ports.

4. The East India Company agrees that at least half of the value of the opium sold should be in the form of Chinese goods exchanged at fair value.

5. Personnel of the East India Company, its agents and personnel of its agents are to be tried under British Law where possible.

6. The Qing Empire agrees to waive the tariffs and such laws as might impede the sale of goods to the East India Company and such agents as it might appoint and on opium imported into the Qing Empire under this arrangement.

7. The Qing Empire agrees to pay a price for opium not less than the price for opium that was prevailing prior to the enactment of this treaty.

Signed

道光帝

Just kidding, reading comprehension clearly isn't my strong suit ;)
 
Just when it looked like he couldn't do worse then RL, he proves all expectations wrong again.
 

Ah sorry, auto-censor removed a word...

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this is how i normally type

Not historically.
 
They're selling Opium to the government. Not to the Chinese people. To the state. And what should I doooooo wiiiiiiiith allll thiss opiummmmm? D:

Why don't we all wait and see <3
 
We'll see about that :3
 
They're selling Opium to the government. Not to the Chinese people. To the state. And what should I doooooo wiiiiiiiith allll thiss opiummmmm? D:

Why don't we all wait and see <3

And how are you paying for all this opium?
 
I'd like to congratulate China on it's progressive attitude.

m.t.cicero said:
Aaaand the Opium War is lost without even being fought. This is literally the Treaty of Nanjing, signed with a company no less. I'm not sure how the Qing can even begin to recover legitimacy after this.

Nanjing was far more onerous.
 
The Qing prove that the Emperor is secretly a teenager when he buys ridiculous amounts of opiates for personal use.
 
Shadow,

Do you personally feel a wiki is a bad idea? If so, why? If not, why did you post that?
 
This NES will get a wiki when it deserves it.

End of Empires gets a wiki because it is a fictional world with thousands of years of history and immense world-building by the players. That has yet to occur. If it does occur, it will be years away. At the moment, the only wiki you should need is wikipedia.
 
I agree. Wiki building since turn one is an exercise in boredom and failure. Wiki holding should occur either when an deeply realized world is built, or such a world has already been built and need he proper support.
 
...what civil war? I never sent a Freire expedition, unless the game begins after that has already taken place. The civil war only started after the War of the Peru-Bolivia Confederation (or so Wikipedia leads me to believe).

According to this page, Peru had entered some sort of confused civil war as of February 1835. You, President Orbegoso, abandoned the capital to this upstart general, then proceeded to ask Santa Cruz, Bolivia's president, for help. Said help arrived in early 1836 and got you your country back.

Judging from that, you could certainly refuse Bolivia's help, but you'd kind of be without a country.


That's all from one wikipedia article though. Anyone more educated on the clustercensored of Bolivarian South America around?
 
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