Preview Thread: stAmenNES4 - For God, Allah, and Glory

[das]

I'm surprised to find that Papacy has a serious army.

I thought England was Constitutional?

No, it wasn't really until late 18th century. Truth be said, it was PARLIAMENTARY and not constitutional. But the difference is abysmal.

America:
- In Texas, Karankawa.
- In Louisiana, Messipa.
- In Florida, Apalachee.
- North of that, Cherokee.
- North of that, Shawnee.
- In South America, Moche (north) and Incan (south).

Africa:
- Mali, yes.
- Other one is Benin.
- In Ethiopia, Ethiopia.
- In Egypt, Mamelukes.

SE Asia:
- In India, Vijayanagra.
- In Burma, Arakan.
- In Siam, Siam.
- In Cambodia, Cambodia.
- In South Vietnam, Champa.
- In Indonesia, Majapahit.

 

[Amenhotep7]

That's not that great of an army. In theory, HRE or most anyone could take Avignon whenever they so please...

 

[Sheep]

Britian doesnt have a constitution. It is based on precedent and documents like the Magna Carta.

 

[blackheart]

The capital of the Il-Khanate isn't Baghdad... their territory doesn't even reach over to Baghdad! Unless I'm mistaken and the Il-Khanate isn't the dark yellow blob in Central Asia.

 

[Amenhotep7]

Almost all Asia is finished. Same with Africa. After that, the new world, and then I can start.

 

[Amenhotep7]

The capital of the Il-Khanate isn't Baghdad... their territory doesn't even reach over to Baghdad! Unless I'm mistaken and the Il-Khanate isn't the dark yellow blob in Central Asia.

The Il-Khanate is the big green blob, IIRC...

 

[das]

Yeah - the green state is Il-Khanate. The other state is Oirat Khanate.

Comments tomorrow. Well done.

 

[Capulet]

Is Cyprus a Christian or Muslim nation?

 

[das]

Christian. In fact, I think its called Knights of St. John...

 

[blackheart]

Doesn't France or someone own Cyprus from the crusades?

 

[Sheep]

France should

 

[Toteone]

Is Venice still open?

 

[das]

Nope. They controlled it briefly. It later fell ot the Knights of St. John. They were later expelled by the Ottomans in OTL. Here, the Ottomans went kaput long ago.

 

[Texas Toast]

are there any free countries left in indochina?

 

[alex994]

Why doesn't china have cannons???

 

[blackheart]

It's the 1400s. China (and everyone else for that matter) haven't even adopted the widespread use of muskets. China was historically behind in the use of firearms.

 

[alex994]

It's the 1400s. China (and everyone else for that matter) haven't even adopted the widespread use of muskets. China was historically behind in the use of firearms.

OOC: and where did you get that piece of crap from? China was historically behind the use of firearms?? The Southern Song Dynasty had primitive firearms which they used to great effect against the invading Mongolians... The first war with large amounts of gunpowder based weaponry on both sides... Muskets aren't the question, CANNONS are different then muskets, and Ming China at this time had cannons... They had cannons on their ships too!

 

[blackheart]

OOC: and where did you get that piece of crap from? China was historically behind the use of firearms?? The Southern Song Dynasty had primitive firearms which they used to great effect against the invading Mongolians... The first war with large amounts of gunpowder based weaponry on both sides... Muskets aren't the question, CANNONS are different then muskets, and Ming China at this time had cannons... They had cannons on their ships too!

Was talking about gun tech. Mongolians still managed to conquer the Song with cavalry archers! Anyways, most of the firearms of this era are CRAP and archers do much better.

 

[alex994]

True, but The Mongolians didn't conquer the Song with cavalry archers... The Majority of Mongolians did not participate in the Invasion, for the most part it was Northern Chinese Troops with gunpowder weaponry similar to the Song's... MOST of the firearms are crap... Most, not all... And cannons are after all quite effective at taking down the heavily fortified Cities of Song China... and the Middle East which the Mongols used Chinese Engineers to their utmost....

 

[Insane_Panda]

Song dynasty was very pacifistic, and they didn't have much of a standing army. Even then it took about 50 years for the mongols to conquer the chinese.