[Project] second unique unit for each civilization

[Robo Magic Man]

Shackleton, where are you from? If you're from America, I'd be really surprised if you hadn't heard of minutemen. They're pretty well known in the U.S.

 

[Robo Magic Man]

Here's a skin for the Roman Cavalry. It's a reasonable change from the Keshik, but it still looks somewhat Mongolian to me.... Please post any suggestions for improvement.

**Created a new button/icon as well

 

[gat00]

Second Kaiserguard's idea of the T-34 tank. Arguably the best tank ever, and certaintely far ahead of its time.

Also, the German Type XXI Submarine. First modern submarine, inspired every sub design after it and completely obsoleted every design once it was completed. However this could complicate things with two UU from the same era, so switch to an early German UU, like a Teutonic Knight maybe? That, or maybe instead of the T-34, maybe give the Russians a Typhoon sub. An American LA Class won't work with the Navy Seal.

Maybe for the Arabs, an advanced SAM warrior?

 

[shackleton]

From the UK, and not a real military specialist, which in a way (if you'll forgive the paradox ) makes me a good judge of what is renowned from the US and what isn't. Everyone's heard of cowboys, though not sure if you could make a unit of them as such... lots of people have heard of the F-19; lots of people associate helicopters with the US (is it the Huey that's the famous one?), lots of people have heard of the... I think it's the 7th Cavalry... at Custer's Last Stand. But minutemen, nope, no idea I'm afraid

 

[JBG]

Why not have the Ballista as a sort of poor man's catapult with a bonus against melee units?

And the Light Carrier (as demonstrated by the Royal Navy's INVINCIBLE-class)? A smaller carrier with only 2 space for fighters, but with an anti-sub capability and vastly cheaper?

And, of course, what about the cruise missile?

 

[Robo Magic Man]

From the UK, and not a real military specialist, which in a way (if you'll forgive the paradox ) makes me a good judge of what is renowned from the US and what isn't. Everyone's heard of cowboys, though not sure if you could make a unit of them as such... lots of people have heard of the F-19; lots of people associate helicopters with the US (is it the Huey that's the famous one?), lots of people have heard of the... I think it's the 7th Cavalry... at Custer's Last Stand. But minutemen, nope, no idea I'm afraid

That's interesting, because in America, the F-19 really isn't the most famous jet fighter. For me at least, it's probably the F-16 orr F-22 Raptor (the newest one). And, Custer's Last Stand is very famous, but not many people know which cavalry divison it was. But on topic, I'd still have to support the minuteman even if it isn't that famous, just because they were such an integral part to the American Revolutionary War. Since most American soldiers weren't very well trained, I always thought of the minutemen as a sort of counterpart to the redcoats.

 

[korvgubben]

Isn't ther already a minute man in the America independence scenario, called patriot???

 

[Mumin]

Isn't ther already a minute man in the America independence scenario, called patriot???

Something like that, so that one should be easy

I earlier made a pair of horse archer skins, so that the current Horse Archer can be used as a Keshik.

 

[Siggy19]

I like the idea of having multiple available UUs for each civ, but that only one should actually be usable in each game...

I started a thread to see if this is possible and how it would work;

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=154453&referrerid=67494

In it, I suggested that the UU in this game either be randomly selected at the start or be dependent upon the tech choices made by the player. This would allow the two UUs to be totally different (one military, one exploratory, or one early, one late for example) and the player could develop their civ in a particular direction by which UU they used.

 

[Master Lexx]

No, both should be available in the game. If it is in, it is in! You cannot change this! You could only with python replace every uu of some kind with the standard class. This project is for giving each civ a second useable uu! So we don´t always see the same units all over again!

I doubt that it´s possible to find a third uu for each civ. But maybe I can find some new civ that really have a new 3d look and so.

@Robo Magic Man: the roman cavalry is excellent! I think I will include it.

@Mumin: your horse archer may very well fit for uu for mongolia. I will include this too, I wish there was a better choice, but mongolians only had special horse archers. and the keshik , so those two units are the only ones that would fit.

 

[LittleRedPoint]

I have made 5 skins, and i will post them when i go home:
- Tribal (re-skinned worker)
- Horseman (re-skinned Persian imortal)
- Tribal Spearman (re-skinned Phalanx)
- Slave (re-skinned worker)
- Inquisitor (re-skinned prophet)

look my unit skins

 

[C_ivil-I-ZATION]

For Germany make an SS unit. Everyone will love that ! Or maybe not. Someone should make a politically incorrect mod.

 

[Robo Magic Man]

I think a lot of people would enjoy a politically incorrect (or just uncensored history) mod, but including offensive units in an otherwise normal mod would stop a lot of ppl from downloading.

 

[JBG]

Quite, but the trick is to do it so that it doesn't get deleted/censored/banned/whatever the moment you post it!

After all, there are people on this site who are... what? 18? Younger?

 

[Master Lexx]

Hmm, better no SS for Germany, this is too controversial. Besides this, I am German. So no SS troops, no hitler crosses, no islamic fundamental bomb planes and so.

Has anybody found good new Civs that have a unique 3d face?

 

[C_ivil-I-ZATION]

Master Lexx the irony is the USA has a Nazi party but it is illegal in Germany!

I am Australian and it is anything goes here though the politicians are using the Islamic thing to push through harsh legislation against everyone.

Just remember folks, the leader of the country doesn't represent all the people.

As for the SS, Das Reich was the most highly awarded division and would justifiably be an elite unit.

They are not to be confused with the Allgemeine SS that manned the concentration camps - they are evil.

The Waffen SS was the fighting part and therefore like soldiers and not concentration guards.

Gross Deutschland was a division of the Wehrmacht and also elite. They were non political.

Having the same old elite units gets boring.

For the Russians how about some of their shock divisions? Or a prison unit that has no fear, at least they were not allowed such given some of their tasks.

For the Americans how about an ordinary unit that has a double fire, to show how well resourced they were.

Steer away from the trite and pick something different.

Just some ideas.

 

[Master Lexx]

Okay, we need 4 more units, a good looking minuteman, a numidian cavalry, a t55 tank, an ansar warrior. ansar warrior could be made out of the immortals. t-55 out of german panzer or the generic tank, numidian cavalry.....?

 

[tartan spartan]

Hi,

I reckon the prussian rifleman would make a passable minuteman, he's got the tricorn hat and an old school musket and is imho too good a skin not to use. There is also an quite cool Illyrian boat posted, which could make a decent second UU for grece or rome as a souped up Galley.

J

 

[Wyz_sub10]

I love the idea, personally, because that would give me an excuse for a Canada Mod add-on allowing for CivArmy's excellent Mountie to join my Canada Corps UU.

ETA: For the Aztecs and Inca, you could think about a support unit. For my First Peoples Mod, I made a "Ghostdancer" (almost like a shaman) that provided Medic support and defense.

You could make an Aztec priest that does something in a support capacity.

 

[Mug]

Registered just so I can say in this post that I think it's best if you try to split the UUs up into periods as far away from each other as possible. I always hated it when I passed right through using my Civs unique unit for some reason, usually due to the map made me pass right through the age that unit was in. I know that for some Civs (like Rome or Persia) this is really hard as historically they didn't really have anything unique.

I also think that it would be really great to mix up the unti types as much as possible, especially with regards to planes + boats, as there just aren't enough variety in vanilla civ. Thats why I think that the Zero for Japan is a superb choice.