Proper Installation

xienwolf · Mar 11, 2008

Well you shouldn't need Warlords instead of BtS unless you are trying to remove some of the new features from BtS. I would assume that you might have to uninstall BtS & Warlords, then re-install Warlords in order to play. It may have overwritten a couple files in the Warlords setup when you installed BtS. But I honestly haven't a clue about that.

Give the running as Admin a try like they reccomended in the other thread for AoI. But really I'm not too familiar with what all the issues might be with AoI to cause the glitches. It honestly should be unbreakable since it came with the disc.

Since it showed up that you are missing the Resources folder in the other thread I know that you don't have the main patch installed. You said that you got it through the Gameflood Download Manager, so my reccomendation is to go to Gameflood, turn off the download manager in your Account Settings, and then download the main game all over again and save it to your harddrive somewhere. Then install it youself so that you are certain it gets in the right location (and have a backup in case of a future need to re-install).

jimkirk · Mar 12, 2008

ok i re- downloaded the mod without gameflood (i uninstalled gameflood) reinstalled the mod in its proper place and the patch k it loads now but it crashes when the game does the map i.e i choose what leader and other game settings and now its loading the map and stuff and boom crashes no error message that i can see

xienwolf · Mar 12, 2008

Check to make certain that you have 3.13 patch for BtS. That could possibly explain the AoI bugs as well. For everyone else who has been able to start a game, but it crashes right when you should see the "Dawn of Man" screen that has been the cause.

Some updaters for BtS CLAIM to have given you 3.13, but in actuality you are on 3.12 or something wierd like that. So the best approach is to click on "Downloads" at the top of the forum, and scroll down to Patches for Civ 4, then download and manually install the 3.13 patch.

jimkirk · Mar 12, 2008

when i go to the in game menu option to chck for game uploads it says none are available .. but if you tell me to manually install 3.13 i will do so i will post here if i still have issues .. so far age of ice works but only if i run the game as administrater (right clicking on shortcut and choosing administrater)

ShaKadelic · Mar 12, 2008

Hi guys, need some help.

I installed everything (Civ4 / BtS / FoH), then launched the game, but it keept crashing while it was loading a map. So i`ve browsed this forum in search of help, found this thread and installed BtS 3.13 immediatly. Guess what...it still crashes right before the map finished loading.

Any other suggestions? Please dont talk about reinstall of Civ4, my brother got the DVD`s, will be quite some effort to get them back...

xienwolf · Mar 13, 2008

ShaKadelic: Do you see the starting Movie? You might need to disable the movies, that can also cause crashes after setting up all of your game options.

jimkirk: I really do hope that 3.13 solves it for you. I do not know why precisely the in game patcher gets confused so easily, but I have seen multiple people now who have been equally baffled when they downloaded the patch from here and it mystically began to work.

Since this might also be the cause of ShaKadelic's problem, I'll link precisely where to get the patch here. If it does solve your problems I will place that link in the second post as well to ensure that people have easier access to it.

ShaKadelic · Mar 13, 2008

Ok xienwolf, tried to disable the movies, but i just cant find the option to do so.
In my settings, i got game settings, video settings up to movie quality, then there is NOTHING else in the video tab, nothing in the audio tab and so on.
So, cant disable movies while running BtS or FoH

EDIT: Ok, now i cant play ANY BtS mod, it will always crash before loading finished..

jimkirk · Mar 13, 2008

xien heres the wierd thing i manually downloaded the proper patch since i have a direct2drive electronic version of the game i downloaded their patch they had for 3.13 and the wierd thing is when i wanted to patch it it aked me what folders i wanted to uninstall and preceded to uninstall the game .. wierd huh as of now all mods with the exception of ffh .30 work i also have ancient mediteranean and rise of man and planetfall

xienwolf · Mar 13, 2008

ShaKadelic: You can disable the movies from playing in the CivilizationIV.ini, you are looking for the lines:

; Set to 1 for no intro movie
NoIntroMovie = 1

jimkirk: You are re-teaching me to hate computers

They do such strange things sometimes.

So I take it you got the game re-installed then? And by "All mods except .30 work" do you mean that AoI is working now?

ShaKadelic · Mar 13, 2008

OK, did it, but doesnt help. Crash on every single BtS game, mod or pure BtS. Vanilla Civ4 works, though.

xienwolf · Mar 13, 2008

Well it is sounding like you might have changed your video settings while you were trying to disable the movies to something which your computer cannot handle. That is the only thing I can think of which would now cause not even BtS itself to work.

I'm posting a copy of everything in my own CivilizationIV.ini, make a backup of yours (Copy it to your desktop or something) and then cut/paste this to overwrite all of it, save and see if it fixes things. (The settings are all at the absolute minimum possible system demand)

Spoiler :

Code:

[CONFIG]

; Specify a Mod folder (Mods\Mesopotamia), '0' for none
Mod = 0

; Dont show the game background during movies - may speed up movie playing
HideMovieBackground = 0

; Enable Trilinear Filtering for the Minimap
MinimapTrilinearFilter = 1

; Enable Tree Region Cutting
CutTrees = 1

; A non-zero value overrides the FIELD_OF_VIEW parameter from GlobalDefines.xml
FIELD_OF_VIEW = 0

; Allow Camera Flying
AllowFlying = 1

; Don't show minimum specification warnings
HideMinSpecWarning = 1

; Random seed for map generation, or '0' for default
MapRandSeed = 0

; Random seed for game sync, or '0' for default
SyncRandSeed = 0

; Email address from which Pitboss reminder emails are sent
PitbossEmail = 0

; SMTP server authentication login for Pitboss reminder emails
PitbossSMTPLogin = 0

; SMTP server for Pitboss reminder emails
PitbossSMTPHost = 0

; Number of seconds to accept live game list updates from GameSpy (-1 for initial snapshot only, 0 for no live updates
GameUpdateTime = 10

; Bandwidth options are modem or broadband
Bandwidth = broadband

; QuickStart - SinglePlayer games only!
QuickStart = 0

; Enable/disable background music
PlayMusic = 1

; Allows some memory savings *** ALT-TAB WILL NO LONGER FUNCTION ***
MemSaver = 0

; Use managed interface textures (may be safer but shouldn't be needed, uses more memory)
GUIManagedTextures = 0

; file format (TGA,JPG,BMP), Warning: TGA requires a lockable buffer which can lower performance
ScreenShot Format = JPG

; Enable voice over IP capture and playback
EnableVoice = 1

; App Selects Specific IP to use for Multiplayer
SelectIP = 0

; Disable PAK memory mapping (May affect performance)
DisablePAKMemoryMapping = 0

; Don't skip frames if falling behind
BinkNoSkip = 1

; Copy entire image each frame, not just dirty pixels
BinkCopyAll = 1

; Show movies using hi-color, not true-color (may be faster)
Bink16Bit = 0

; Copy ever other scanline during movie playback (faster)
BinkInterlace = 0

; Specify whether to play in fullscreen mode 0/1/ask
FullScreen = 1

; Set max frame rate clamp (0 means none)
SetMaxFrameRate = 0

; Set to 1 to put PitBoss to sleep when no players are connected
PitBossSleep = 1

; Set to 1 to page units out when non-visible
DynamicUnitPaging = 1

; Set to 1 to page unit anims out when the unit is non visible
DynamicAnimPaging = 1

; Set to 1 for no on-screen event messages
NoEventMessages = 0

; Set to 1 for no tech splash screens
NoTechSplash = 1

; Set to 1 for no intro movie
NoIntroMovie = 1

; Set to 1 for no python exception popups
HidePythonExceptions = 0

; The maximum number of autosaves kept in the directory before being deleted.
MaxAutoSaves = 5

; Specify the number of turns between autoSaves.  0 means no autosave.
AutoSaveInterval = 4

; Enable Audio
AudioEnable = 1

; English(0),French(1),German(2),Italian(3),Spanish(4) - Defaults to user-installed language
Language = 0

; Determines which user profile is loaded on game start
UserProfile = Default Profile

; Sync input to smooth interface (may run slower)
SyncInput = 0

; Force numlock always on while playing
ForceNumlock = 0

; Disable caching of file system (may slow initialization)
DisableFileCaching = 1

; Disable caching of xml and file system (may slow initialization)
DisableCaching = 0

[GAME]

; Game Options
GameOptions = 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000010

; Modular XML Loading
ModularLoading = 0

; Map Script file name
Map = Creation

; GameType options are singlePlayer/spLoad
GameType = singlePlayer

; Pitboss Turn Time
PitbossTurnTime = 0

; Max number of turns (0 for no turn limit)
MaxTurns = 0

; Victory Conditions
VictoryConditions = 11111111

; Handicap for quick play
QuickHandicap = HANDICAP_MONARCH

; GameSpeed options are GAMESPEED_QUICK/GAMESPEED_NORMAL/GAMESPEED_EPIC/GAMESPEED_MARATHON
GameSpeed = GAMESPEED_QUICK

; Era options are ERA_ANCIENT/ERA_CLASSICAL/ERA_MEDIEVAL/ERA_RENAISSANCE/ERA_INDUSTRIAL/ERA_MODERN
Era = ERA_ANCIENT

; Sealevel options are SEALEVEL_LOW/SEALEVEL_MEDIUM/SEALEVEL_HIGH
SeaLevel = SEALEVEL_MEDIUM

; Climate options are CLIMATE_ARID/CLIMATE_TEMPERATE/CLIMATE_TROPICAL
Climate = CLIMATE_TEMPERATE

; Worldsize options are WORLDSIZE_DUEL/WORLDSIZE_TINY/WORLDSIZE_SMALL/WORLDSIZE_STANDARD/WORLDSIZE_LARGE/WORLDSIZE_HUGE
WorldSize = WORLDSIZE_STANDARD

; Game Name
GameName = RP Game

; Save Path - relative to working (Civ4) folder
FileName = 0

; Account Username
Nickname = Xienwolf

; Email Address
Email = JacobTurner

; DirectIP Host Address
DirectIP = 5.134.75.210

; In-game Alias
Alias = Xienwolf

; Main Menu Mods
MainMenuMods = Afterworld;Broken Star;Charlemagne;Crossroads of the World;Defense;FfH Age of Ice;Final Frontier;Gods of Old;MesoAmerica;Next War;Rhye's and Fall of Civilization;The Road to War

; Move along
CheatCode = 0

[DEBUG]

; Number of turns to autorun before exit (0 for no limit)
AutorunTurnLimit = 0

; Set App on Auto-Run
Autorun = 0

; Enable D3D9 Queries
D3D9Query = 0

; Custom Screen Height, minimum: 768 - Normal resolutions can be set in-game and will be used when set to 0
ScreenHeight = 0

; Custom Screen Width, minimum: 1024 - Normal resolutions can be set in-game and will be used when set to 0
ScreenWidth = 0

; Establish connection to Python Debugger
HAPDebugger = 0

; NetComm Port
Port = 2056

; Create a dump file if the application crashes
GenerateCrashDumps = 1

; Enable the logging system
LoggingEnabled = 1

; Enable synchronization logging
SynchLog = 1

; Overwrite old network and message logs
OverwriteLogs = 0

; Enable rand event logging
RandLog = 1

; Enable message logging
MessageLog = 1

; Break on memory allocation order #
BreakOnAlloc = -1

ShaKadelic · Mar 13, 2008

Great Oden, it works!!!

Im so happy, thank you very very much Xienwolf.
Funny thing is, all settings are high, not minimum. But, now my game is english (it was german). That doesnt bother me, but if you know the command line to change that, tell me.

EDIT: Ok, not so great as i thought. It works, but onlly if i play exactly with your settings Xienwolf. WHen i change my name, the difficulty settings or even the map size, i get an error during map setup loading screen.

xienwolf · Mar 13, 2008

I would say go back to your original .ini and change the settings in it one by one till you fix the problem. Then most of the settings should be able to remain the ones you had originally.

ShaKadelic · Mar 13, 2008

Thought of that, too. The problem is, my .ini changed to yours, even the .ini on my freakin desktop. SO i dont got many original setting, see yourself:

Spoiler :

xienwolf · Mar 13, 2008

GAH! Computers, can't kick em, can't shoot em. But only cause it'd hurt your foot, and cost you a bullet and a monitor...

So, since it mystically modified your desktop backup, check if you have a CivilizationIV.ini.bak. This is a backup of your INI file, but I am reasonably certain that it too would have updated somehow. Just in case it did not, rename mine to something the computer won't figure out, and delete the .bak from the end of the other file to make it into a normal .ini. Open it up to see if it is your old settings.

jimkirk · Mar 13, 2008

xienwolf said:
ShaKadelic: You can disable the movies from playing in the CivilizationIV.ini, you are looking for the lines:

; Set to 1 for no intro movie
NoIntroMovie = 1

jimkirk: You are re-teaching me to hate computers They do such strange things sometimes.

So I take it you got the game re-installed then? And by "All mods except .30 work" do you mean that AoI is working now?

forgot to mention yes i was thrown for a curve when the patch (its a 430 some odd mb sized patch )suddenly wanted to "UNINSTALL" my game unfortunatly i clciked too fast and it uninstalled so i re installed the game direct2drive version of the games are intresting once you activate it with the code they give you you dont need a disc to play which is great because disc get scratched and like my warlords get wonky and you cant play if the disc is wonky but you do need a different patch compared to the regular game its frustrating i tell you

yes age of ice works (i have to run as administrater for it to work)i just tested the rest of my mods they all work although planetfall crashes mid game ryse and fall works it takes forever to finish age of ice worked a lovely scenario rise of man works .. ancient mediteranean works besides ffh ..30 which now only crashes after the map creation screen (where you choose the leader and and other map and game rules)it crashes after or during the time it supposed to load the map

the only other problematic mod for me is nechro christi and dragonia which has a problem being extracted into the mod folder .. but since my main love is ffh im more worried why ffh isnt working for me compared to those 2 other mods

one more thing xienwolf i forgot to emntion one of the odd things about the ffh .30 mods and it may play a role in maybe figureing out whats wrong is in the past versions with vanilla civ when i loaded ffh it had its own music and graphics this time its quiet no sound or no music now i d/l the media pack and used the default location where the built in installer installed the media stuff i dont know if it means anything but i just thought i should tell you

and by the way .. thank you for trying to help me .. kudos .. i now in the end it will work out

xienwolf · Mar 13, 2008

Cool, so AoI working now, that is one good thing. And for FfH you installed the main mod, not just the patch, correct? I'm not certain precisly how far into the game you can get without the main mod installed, but I would imagine not very far at all. Still, gotta ask the easy questions first, just in case

jimkirk · Mar 14, 2008

well i see a resource and assets folder in the fh directory in the mod folder so the real deal is installed in the proper folder .. im thinking of deleting it from the folder and reinstalling this time without the media pack

xienwolf · Mar 14, 2008

It is a long-shot, but maybe you installed the media pack before you installed the main mod? I guess that might cause something funky to happen, but most likely just cause you not to get the benefits of the Media Pack.

I remember in one of the patches, maybe it was the most recent, Kael accidentally removed a bunch of the music from the game by leaving a trigger in the patch which shortens loading time for bug testing by removing the media files. So simply not getting sound shouldn't alarm you too much. Installing the Media Pack last (after main mod and patch) should return everything to normal and get you the music. But trying it without the Media pack is a decent idea, just to eliminate an unlikely variable.

jimkirk · Mar 14, 2008

ok it works now the problem was smething with the meia pack .. i deleted the ffh folder and reinstalled it this time without the media pack and its fine

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