Prophecy of Ragnorak

[Seont]

Well as it stands now, a good civ could create the prophecy, take the initial 5 point hit, if there even is one, and then dedicate the city to building only buildings or research and money, but no units.

Perhaps instead of all units being created in the city baring the prophecy mark, why not have it randomly, or every few turns, spawn a special prophecy unit. preferably a little guy with one of those wearable billboard signs that says" repent, the end is near"

 

[Psychorg]

As the Prophecy foretells an event on the global scale, an event which will involve every civ, perhaps it shouldn't only give the prophecy mark promotion to units in the builder's civ. Whenever a unit is created anywhere, by anyone, there could be a small chance (5%?) that it starts with the prophecy mark promotion. This way, even a neutral civ may find itself under attack if much of its population is (or rather, as it is the case of a prophecy, will be) involved in the coming of The End.

It may also encourage good civs to declare war as an excuse to send their 'marked' units to die. I'm not sure if this should be proper decorum for a good civ...

 

[Seont]

....It may also encourage good civs to declare war as an excuse to send their 'marked' units to die. I'm not sure if this should be proper decorum for a good civ...

then i would suggest something to allow good civs to purge their marks, maybe something tied to ancient temples could work or just having to send them to an inquisitor to be inquisitioned for a few turns.

 

[Mesix]

The armegeddon counter mechanic for the prophecy mark does not seem to work properly. I am playing version 0.21c and I am creating soldiers of Kilmorph in the city with the Prophecy of Ragnarak. They start with the prophecy mark promotion as advertised, but the counter does not seem to be affected. When I create them the counter does not move. When I sacrifice them to build a wonder in another city the counter does not move. I have built about 8 or 10 of the prophecy mark units so far and the counter has stayed at 4 the entire time.

 

[kenken244]

the problem i sprobobly armageddon scaling the "real" counter does go up but the one you see does not

 

[evanb]

I'm seeing the same thing as Mesix does. The AC didn't grow when I built my first marked unit, a Scout. However, when I built a Zealot, it did grow. What's happening?...

 

[Silverkiss]

It is because the counter only shows "entire" numbers (forgot the name in english, sorry, I'm talking about 1,2,3,4, etc), and when you guys built the units, it went up by a fraction (like 0,25). So, in the example of building a scout raises it by 0,25, you would need to build 4 scouts to see it move 1 point up.

 

[evanb]

Oh, thanks. (And you're talking about integers )

 

[Sureshot]

Whole numbers actually what he meant i think heh (the set of 0, 1, 2, 3, etc.)
though natural numbers would be what he described (i.e. positive integers from 1 onwards), but given that the AC counter starts at 0, you need to include that.

 

[evanb]

The set of natural numbers includes 0, IIRC.

 

[Sureshot]

naw, Natural numbers are just 1, 2, 3, 4, etc., where as Whole numbers are 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.

 

[Silverkiss]

o.o

Dunno what you are talking, "Natural Numbers" in portuguese refers to N={0,1,2,3...}, while "Whole Numbers" would refer to Z={...-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3...}

Well, who am I to discuss it in english anyway.

 

[Sureshot]

really depends on what type of math you're doing heh, in number theory its different than other fields like computer science

 

[kenken244]

i like the idea of the prophecy of ragnarock giving all civs a chance of getting marked units. maybe the avatar of wrath should convert only marked units but convert all of them

 

[Grey Fox]

Uhm, that would kinda hurt the guy trying to bring about the armageddon the most. Isn't that counterintuitive?

 

[kenken244]

no because every civ has a chance of getting it and one civ does not have any more chance of getting marked if each unit when its made has like a 3% chance of getting marked

 

[Grey Fox]

oh thought you meant the mark they get NOW from the wonder...

 

[BeefontheBone]

The set of natural numbers can either contain or exclude 0, it depends on who's using it. Set theorists would throw it in, algebraists might not. Personally, I'd say 0 is a pretty natural number and include it. You can avoid ambiguity by writing something like Z sup ">0" (integers greater than 0). "Whole numbers" isn't really used as a technical term, but would generally be understood to be the same as the integers, or probably the positive ones in everyday speech. Not that it matters, was pretty clear what was meant

 

[Rex rgis of Ter]

Nah... those of nostradamus are not real prophecies. They are written ambiguosly on purpouse so that you can say "wow, it truly happened".

"This land would be consumed with fire and water, darkness would rule the land. Those alone who would know joy would be those who who died, fighting the inevitable with honor."

As you can see a real prophecy does not leave space to doubts, or does the word inevitable have many acceptions ?

What about his prophecy of the three antichrists? First French (Napoleon), Second European (Hitler), third ASian (Osama, Sadaam, Mao, Kim Jong Il, VIetinese guy.) Pretty accurate. He also predicted 9/11. 'Terror from the sky.' Nostradamus was vague to avoid being tortured for witchcraft by the inquisition.

 

[Chandrasekhar]

Do you have even the faintest idea how many prophecies he made? Combine that with the ambiguous wording, and it's amazing that so many of them haven't been fulfilled.