Proposed new World Wonder

The origins on the "BOWL", as I understand it.

American Football essentially started in American cottages as a modified form of Rugby. Soon rivalries started between schools, and every school had to have a team. The started by setting up divisions, with the champions of each division playing each other. Those stadiums were essentially 'BOWL" shaped hence the adoption of the word bowl in reference to an American Football game. These "Bowl" games adopted assorted names which are still in use today, all usually played on January 1 but that has changed somewhat in the last 10 years. There are Cotton Bowls, Sugar bowls, rose bowls, fiesta bowls, more bowls than I know or care about.

Professional American Football began in the 1920's I believe (New York Giants were one of the first teams, did I mention I a Giant's fan!) which was a standard professional schedule and a final championship game (NFL CHanpionship). Once Television hit American in teh 50's we became infatuated with the sport as it was once a week on Sundays and generally got the American male out of any work for a Sunday afternoon. Helped the economy alot as the American Female started shopping at the Malls (yes it is our UB for a reason) on Sunday afternoons. But I digress.....

So in the 1960's another upstart football league called the AFL (American Football League) sprung up and gave the NFL a run for their Money. By the late 1960's television and the media thought the best way to settle why leagues was better would be and AFL-NFL Championship game. This was done 2 years in a row with Green Bay of the NFL beating the upstart AFL. Year three the game adopted the name "SUPERBOWL" as a nickname and more importantly the New York Jets of the supstart JETS kicked the Baltimore COlts backsides all over the field, winning the game. THe next year the two leagues merged together as one, allowing cross-palying of old NFL and old AFL teams (NFL now being NFC and AFL teams being AFC) with some team reassignment.

What evolved was an obsession over the last, great game resulting in lot's of partying, drinking, and merry making mostly because the games were typically the most boring of the year and blowouts on one side or the other. Nevertheless Americans were very happy to adopt the new "unofficial holiday" with the idea of being able to call in sick the next day with a hangover. It has only been in recent years (and 1990) that the games have actually been competitive and exciting, leading the advertising companies in a bit of a difficult situation, do they like people watching the entire game or prefer them being more interested in teh commercials than the game itself.

If there are still any ridicules, mockeries, or running jokes about American Football I would very happy to write another dirge on the merits of such a fine American institution!
 
English civ special building: Goodison Park. +2 happiness when Liverpool are defeated in the derby. City has increased chance of producing a great artist (Dixie Dean, the most prolific striker ever in the english league). Immediately declare war on all civs with red cultural boundaries. +1 relations with all civs with blue cultural boundaries.

EDIT: Madscientist, look up the definition of "foot" in the dictionary ;) That's those things on the end of your legs i.e. not your hands ;)
 
I just think that American football in too slow.... and the ol'" no ball and no foot" thing :p

Can we resume the topic?

No matter what you call it :p , it would be a good idea to have some kind of super stadium that would benefit somehow of the presence of colloseums or stadiums ( if Firaxis would add them.... ).
 
3 pages of debate about American football? Must be time for an advertisement break, change all the posters around, then have another 3 pages and some concert by Janet Jackson where her boobs fall out or something. Now that's proper sport... :rolleyes:
 
3 pages of debate about American football? Must be time for an advertisement break, change all the posters around, then have another 3 pages and some concert by Janet Jackson where her boobs fall out or something. Now that's proper sport... :rolleyes:

Actually that year was the first I could actually talk my then young girls into watching the game with their old man. Told them the half-time show was always spectacular and alot of fun. Of course they were appalled at what Timberlake did to that poor girl (being too young to realize it was an act), really made me look like a fool.

Now this year they had a reason to follow the game. They are older and all teh boys are talking about the Giants and the Superbowl, so they wanted some info on it to stay in conversation.
 
Ouch, that's got to be a "-1 you made me look like a fool with your boob/Timberlake shenanigans" diplo penalty.

Here in the UK, at half time we all go and have some pies.

We do have a marching band before the cup final though, it's rubbish.

Although I did see a good clip where the Superbowl marching band played some radiohead.
 
That's why a lot of Europeans don't like Americans, they think they are the best at everything, but as far as i know, you Americans aren't the best at Football, Baseball, Ice hockey, and many other sports.

I like Basketball, it's my hobby and keeps me fit. But I love watch football in the stadium (I suck at Football).

we Americans like to joke around... apparently you Europeans don't. so never mind on that.

but I think we are the best at baseball, no? who's better? it's pretty statistically well documented that Americans do well overall in most major sports (thinking in terms of the Olympic sports or professional major sports).

But it's not a reflection on Americans vs. other nations, it's just the fact that the US is such a large nation of immigrants from every other nation, and the wealth, freedom, and emphasis on sports for children in this culture, that it's only natural more athletes here would excel overall (baseball, golf, tennis, track, skiing, etc, etc). It would be pretty pathetic statement for all other nations if the US did not do well in sports.
 
I think you US-dudes overestimate the impact of the Superbowl on the Worlds politics/economy/powers :p

Going aaaaaaaaaaall the way back to the 1st response to quote and respond: only the dumb ones do, but that's a big pile of people. Hehe.

I've always found it absurd that we call the Superbowl winners "World Champions" and the US-Canadian baseball champions of the "World Series".

If my brother and I invent a sport called Fufufnick and I beat him at it, I am not a world champion. An olympic gold-medalist is a world champion.

It's stupid, but we're Americans - which means we're fat, lazy, ego-centric jerks who think we're better than everyone else. But we *do* have the most kickass military...... :trouble:
 
but I think we are the best at baseball, no? who's better?

What about Cuba??

Of course the US of A does great a team sports, they have 300.000.000 people to select the best players, while most european countries have far less citizens to choose of. So size matters indeed. It works even for individual sports as they have more competition in their youth.


@Morgrad, If you win the Olympics your not the World Champion, but the Olympic Champion.

And in some sports (ice hockey) the Olympic title is more superior, while in other sports (football) the World Championship is superior.

And there are many sports that aren't Olympic Sports at all. for example Korfball (one of the few mixed-gender team sports) have only the World Championships, but you have to organize and invite the world to call yourself World Champion
 
Ouch, that's got to be a "-1 you made me look like a fool with your boob/Timberlake shenanigans" diplo penalty.

Here in the UK, at half time we all go and have some pies.

We do have a marching band before the cup final though, it's rubbish.

Although I did see a good clip where the Superbowl marching band played some radiohead.

They get Janet Jackson's boob, and the best we get in the UK is Judy blimmin' Finnigan's tit floppin' about like a fish. Eurgh.
 
They get Janet Jackson's boob, and the best we get in the UK is Judy blimmin' Finnigan's tit floppin' about like a fish. Eurgh.

Don't talk about Richard Madeley like that ;)
 
Regarding best at baseball. The US in generally considered better as they have been in the sport longer (it's a butchered cricket game, just like Football is a butchered Rigby game) and have a well established league. As far as best arround the world I am not sure. There are ALOT of south/central/carribean baseball players who ar tops in teh league. Also the few Japanese players who came over are some of the best I have seen play teh game such as Ichiro Suzuki and Matsui.

Likewise there is the NHL (North American Hockey) which has a large number of Canadians, Americans, and Europeans.
 
The original thread title was:
Proposed new World Wonder

Could someone please explain what would the effect be of The McDonalds World Wonder which adds +1 happy but -1 health in every city?
 
The original thread title was:
Proposed new World Wonder

Could someone please explain what would the effect be of The McDonalds World Wonder which adds +1 happy but -1 health in every city?

I'm going out on a limb here, but would the effect be +1 happy and -1 health in every city? :D
 
Regarding best at baseball. The US in generally considered better as they have been in the sport longer (it's a butchered cricket game, just like Football is a butchered Rigby game) and have a well established league. As far as best arround the world I am not sure. There are ALOT of south/central/carribean baseball players who ar tops in teh league. Also the few Japanese players who came over are some of the best I have seen play teh game such as Ichiro Suzuki and Matsui.

Likewise there is the NHL (North American Hockey) which has a large number of Canadians, Americans, and Europeans.

Getting foreign players isn't making the country better, only the club's
The result on Olympic & World championsship the cubans preform better.
3 Olympic & 25 World gold medals is much more then 1 Olympic & 2 World gold medals. And you say the US of A is better???
 
I'm going out on a limb here, but would the effect be +1 happy and -1 health in every city? :D

My question was intended vaguely seriously --- trying to understand the effective consequences of +1 happy but -1 health? I don't think there is anything else which does just this? Like, is 1 happiness better/worse then 1 unhealthiness?
 
How about "The Olympics"?

I've always wanted this wonder. Its benefit aside from a strong amount of culture for the founding city would be an automatic Double Strength 'We Love the King' every four turns in that city.

Now for a twist after the discovery of Mass Media. The founder of the Olympics can designate a host city which will recieve the x2 WLTK benefit. This would generate a temp +1 rep boost with the host leader until the next games and a new city is chosen. It must be a new city. Leaders may get jealous if they don't get to host the games in a long time.

I'm not sure if the initial benefit is too weak, but after Mass Media that +1 could be helpful. +1 could be the difference between signing a defense pact, open borders, trade etc.
 
How about the MCG... Increased concentration span and extra happiness for all cities. Unless you are the Americans, then that city get's burned to the ground in boredom (American's don't have attention spans...).
 
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