Prove God Exists - Act Three

[SolarKnight]

I am as open minded as they come, but I have not seen, heard, felt or experienced your "god", therefore I must come to the conclusion that he does not exist, or if there is the remotest chance that he does exist, he has been ignoring me for the last 21 years

 

[Perfection]

Perfection: You are ignorant, and attacking. This is because you do not have anything of value to add, and my post caused you fear and concern.

You're right, I feer that people will one day take that Jerusalem thing as evidence. What makes your word play much better than mine? nothing! That's because if you think hard enough you can make any sentance mean anything, my post was illustrative of that fact.

You are as a bully attempting to rally his thugs and thwart resistance through what you believe are funny or biting insults.

Perhaps my example was a bit overdone but it still shows that silly little word games aren't proof!

You are limited, and this is your choice. Now, open your mind and consider the post again.

I'll consider evidence not word games!

Again, my statement there is nothing wrong with being an Atheist, except that you are wrong. By believing that God does not exist, you are wrong, but certainly it is within your right to be wrong.

You want to show me how I'm wrong or do you just want to play silly word games?

 

[erickcid]

SolarKnight: I appreciate your response, and understand your position. Here my feelings in response become personally about you, rather than in focus with the thread, and would lead to discussions, you might not find suitable for an open forum. I would welcome further discussions with you or anyone else via email. In short, your existence - your being - is your experience. Consider that God states man is Created in His likeness and image, and God says of itself I Am What I Am. That statement holds true for yourself, You Are what You Are. It is a simple, and vast statement. Realization of it is realization of yourself.

Whether you desire God as an active part of your life or not is up to you. Regardless, I recommend an understanding of Will.

I see your avatar is the Tao, have you ever read the Tao Te Ching?

 

[Garbarsardar.jr]

Stupid word games aren't proof. If I wanted word games I'd play scrabble!

@perfection. You should know better.8,962 posts and you came to that.
Jerusalem comes from the greek word IEROS(jerus)=holy and Salem=the new england town. So it is actually HOLY SALEM !=an obvious reference to the witch trials that were to take place there.Another proof that god has advance warnings about future calamities.Fool!

 

[Perfection]

@perfection. You should know better.8,962 posts and you came to that.
Jerusalem comes from the greek word IEROS(jerus)=holy and Salem=the new england town. So it is actually HOLY SALEM !=an obvious reference to the witch trials that were to take place there.Another proof that god has advance warnings about future calamities.Fool!

I stand corrected

 

[King Alexander]

@erickcid: God must have a very sick (multi)personality when he watches people to be killed/raped/starve and not intervene. He's really enjoying all this, otherwise he'd take his ..feet(I don't want to use other words) and help his beloved creatures; WHAT a sick "Father" to have.

 

[Perfection]

Thanks, King Alexander, of all my thugs, you're my favorite.

 

[erickcid]

perfection: Are you unable to set aside yourself for just a few moments and have a sense of wonder? Considering the region, the history, the city.... I am debating with myself whether to continue speaking with you. I see you as being stonewalled in ignorance - solely out of a desire to be Right, rather than seeking Knowledge or understanding. You are willing to corrupt and twist to create for yourself a sense of superior rightness. Unable even to disagree with kindness and reason. Even if the dissection means little or nothing to you, you are either blind or lieing if you can not see how my dissection has clear historical implications.

 

[erickcid]

King Alexander: God is in fact Evil as surely as he is Good. His words, actions and inactions make that clear. Do not presume to know my understanding or picture of what God is. It says for itself it is what it is, God is Master of Good & Evil. God says he is a Man of War in the bible. If you read the bible, qu'ran, tao, gita, etc for yourself and create for yourself knowledge and understanding you could see and create your own opinions.

 

[Perfection]

Are you unable to set aside yourself for just a few moments and have a sense of wonder? Considering the region, the history, the city.... I am debating with myself whether to continue speaking with you. I see you as being stonewalled in ignorance - solely out of a desire to be Right, rather than seeking Knowledge or understanding. You are willing to corrupt and twist to create for yourself a sense of superior rightness. Unable even to disagree with kindness and reason. Even if the dissection means little or nothing to you, you are either blind or lieing if you can not see how my dissection has clear historical implications.

I have a sense of wonder I marvel every day at the amazing complexity of life and nature. However, that saying does not stir any sense of wonder in me, why? Because it appears to be nothing more than a silly little word game, you're welcome to show why? Jerusalem is in important city, but it doesn't make your silly word game associated with it right. As for superior rightness, I see a lot coming from your mouth too, fact is we all want to be right, it's called confimration bias. As for Kindness, I see little kindness from you, and little reason either, all I see is a silly word game.

But let's leave the insults behind us. Let's get to the bottom of this.

Can you explain to me why your word game is so true when so many other things can be made from the exact same words, some contradictory.

 

[Garbarsardar.jr]

@Perfection:Your apology is weak, and it only provoques my rage:
The number EIGHT, which has been called the Dominical number, is found everywhere symbolically employed to convey the idea of Salvation. Perfecting, and Regeneration, from the Company of Noah, onwards through the Bible, and is nowhere more emphasised than in the name of our Lord, which teaches the doctrine of the perfected Humanity in the 888 of IHSOUS. This, there can be little doubt, is the mystery to which Irenaeus alludes when he describes the numbering of the name of Jesus. To this moral or spiritual perfection the figure of the cube is allied on the geometric side – and our Lord seems to give His sanction to this teaching when He gives to Peter the name KHFAS. This suggestion of perfectness in the number Eight is reflected in the constitution of the Greek alphabet with its three Ogdoads* of units, tens, and hundreds – the final W which, with the A, takes its place in our Christian arithmology, being 800 – in Gematria KURIOS - Lord – the leading epithet of Christ and in the Old Testament of God. The 800 of KURIOS is found in antithesis to the 600 of KOSMOS – the World; just as the 888 of IHSOUS is in a yet more marked degree contrasted with the 666 of the Beast of the Apocalypse, whose number emphasises the qualities of incompleteness and materiality.
With the idea of a spiritual revelation is associated Light, and the Divine significance of Light is clearly apparent in the number symbolism of the Scriptures as well as in the Gnostic books.
The number of Light – FWS – is 1500. It is the Robe of the Lord – ENDUMA KURIOU. ENDUMA – 500 – is one of the many mystical words, or words appertaining to the mystery-religions, used by St. Paul.
In the Pistis Sophia Jesus has three of these robes of Light, and the number of the word ENDUMATA – 801 – is again that of the A and W, and of the PERISTERA. And the three ENDUMATA are 3 × 500 = 1500 which is the number of Light (FWS).
801 is three times 267, the number of the Kingdom – H BASILEIA.
Ten times this number is 2670 – KURIOS FWTOS, Lord of Light, or, as applied to Christ, TO FWS KOSMOU – The Light of the World, who is also H DUNAMIS MEGALH FWTOS (2670) – The Great Power of Light, which descends upon the Lord in the Pistis Sophia. This is also the number of the Church of Jesus Christ – H EKKLHSIA IHSOU CRISTOU.

Hah!And if you dont behave there is more to follow!

 

[Perfection]

So wait, Garbarsardar, are you saying, that I am Jesus?

 

[erickcid]

Perfection: Yes, what I posted is one of many, perhaps near infinite things you can do with the word Jerusalem, but it is Jerusalem, a city of historical religious consequence for the represented faiths. You can do many things, but few will have intrinsic historical interest and value. Let it be nothing more than one of many possibilities for you. I have no desire to make it more.

 

[Garbarsardar.jr]

Yes,
and now about the small matter of crucifixion: LIne on the left, one cross each!

 

[King Alexander]

Perfection, it's a pleasure for me to speak with an open-minded person (and a well educated one in many areas, too ), something rare to find nowadays

@erickcid: I'm confused To whom are you reffering?

EDIT: Sorry erickcid, I was late at posting

 

[erickcid]

Garbarsardar: Neat. By all means post more. You might also consider that the number 8 is as an infinity symbol turned on its side, which fits in line really quite nicely.

 

[erickcid]

King Alexander: my reply to you was in response to your post regarding God being sick, etc. It is incomplete, but valid.

 

[Perfection]

Perfection: Yes, what I posted is one of many, perhaps near infinite things you can do with the word Jerusalem, but it is Jerusalem, a city of historical religious consequence for the represented faiths. You can do many things, but few will have intrinsic historical interest and value. Let it be nothing more than one of many possibilities for you. I have no desire to make it more.

Well, if you can do so many things with the word, why is your one thing so much better and valid then the others? You called this miraculous but is it really that miraculous that out of hundreds of billions of different things you can come up with for this one is a miracle it just because it seems to confirm some part of your logic? I think not!

 

[erickcid]

Perfection: Very well. We are going in circles.

 

[Mrogreturns]

Mrogreturns: here is your miracle.

I didn't ask for a miracle.

I asked what the purpose was of those miracles attributed to god by the bible. In other words- Does the bible explain why god performed those miracles, and if so what was the purpose?