Question about the Slavic Federation

[NN23]

I haven't been very involved in the announcements about BE, but one rumor has caught my attention.

I heard that the Slavic Federation is a federation of Russia plus a random number of countries who border Russia, and that the Slavic Federation is not consisted of Slavic countries like Russia, Poland, Ukraine, Serbia, Bulgaria, Czech Rep, Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Belarus and Montenegro. Is this true?

 

[edingess]

I haven't been very involved in the announcements about BE, but one rumor has caught my attention.

I heard that the Slavic Federation is a federation of Russia plus a random number of countries who border Russia, and that the Slavic Federation is not consisted of Slavic countries like Russia, Poland, Ukraine, Serbia, Bulgaria, Czech Rep, Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Belarus and Montenegro. Is this true?

I don't think it's a chip off the ol' Bloc if that's what you're asking. Prbably like the planned Eurasian Union moreso.

 

[Lord Shadow]

It looks like it's a union of a number of slavic territories, in which Russia's the leading power (if General Kozlov and the city names are any indication).

But there's little in the way of hard facts. It's all speculation.

 

[NN23]

it could very be. But it is a very weird name for a Eurasian Union

 

[Black Whole]

Well, there once was a list of states, which belonged to the SF, but they removed it... It created a lot of tension at some sites.

 

[Lord Shadow]

Well, there once was a list of states, which belonged to the SF, but they removed it... It created a lot of tension at some sites.

I don't remember anything official.

 

[Black Whole]

I don't remember anything official.

I think it was from a Let's play from Solar gamer. He said, that he read it somewhere, but suddenly this info vanished... So yeah, nothing official

 

[m15a]

I haven't seen the list, so I don't know about that, but definitely something called the "Slavic Federation" could include some non-Slavic countries and not include all Slavic countries. The European Union doesn't include all of Europe and it includes regions outside of Europe. Having the name "Slavic Federation" is suggestive of the history and the political structure of the SF.

 

[Zorkost]

I haven't seen anything official that really goes in-depth to explain the history of any of the sponsors. I don't think that the name necessarily implies that it is confined solely to slavic countries; Kozlov talks about the Eurasian nations "regaining their senses" and forming a union that would eventually become the Slavic Federation; regaining their senses implies that they once had sense that they lost, which suggests that the Slavic Federation includes a substantial portion of the Soviet Union's sphere of influence.

"Slavic" does clearly imply a race, and it wouldn't be terribly surprising if the slavic nations of Europe were united (by consent or by force) following the third and fourth world wars. Still, 'slavic' - at this point - might be more a marker of nationhood rather than a racial identification (so someone might be Mongolian-Slavic, European-Slavic, etc).

Who knows?

 

[Magma_Dragoon]

Sounds to me like Russia forced the rest of eastern Europe back into it's dungeon.

 

[KrikkitTwo]

Sounds to me like Russia forced the rest of eastern Europe back into it's dungeon.

Or a dying petrostate Russia became a vassal to a newly empowered Poland (Russian space scientists all work in Warsaw...like German space scientists in Houston.

 

[Magma_Dragoon]

Much as I would love to see big bad Russia begging Poland for a discount on coal, given past trends, I estimate it was more like Russia gobbled up the rest of the slavic nations one "little war" at a time.

The rest of Europe refuses to do anything because they aren't up for a war, until everyone's gone. Silence of the lambs...

 

[Eisenhart]

Or a dying petrostate Russia became a vassal to a newly empowered Poland (Russian space scientists all work in Warsaw...like German space scientists in Houston.

Plausible, seeing as Kozlov speaks a mixture of Polish and Russian.

 

[IncessantMace]

I doubt Poland would have taken Russia, if they got close enough that Russia's existence was threatened Lodz, Warsaw, Gdansk and so on would be radioactive holes.

Perhaps Kozlov came from the border region of Poland and was born to a Russian soldier and Polish native? Or perhaps if Russia annexed Poland he became the next Stalin (since Stalin was Georgian not Russian)

I could be completely wrong of course.

 

[m15a]

Of course Poland could conquer Russia - Poland is totally OP!

 

[Eisenhart]

I doubt Poland would have taken Russia, if they got close enough that Russia's existence was threatened Lodz, Warsaw, Gdansk and so on would be radioactive holes.

Perhaps Kozlov came from the border region of Poland and was born to a Russian soldier and Polish native? Or perhaps if Russia annexed Poland he became the next Stalin (since Stalin was Georgian not Russian)

I could be completely wrong of course.

Or there's also the possibility that faced with difficulties, they federated voluntarily.

It is not uncommon for states to join up without warfare.

 

[gunnergoz]

IIRC, The BE lore posits a post-nuclear exchange world, where today's Russia has more than once apparently been a battleground. Given that to be the case, one could conceive of any number of scenarios that see the eventual unification of surviving fragments of prewar countries and regions.

In other words, the whole shebang is up for grabs: no one has exclusive rights to describe such a future.

 

[IncessantMace]

True, but on the other hand given we are allowed to somewhat freely interpret what happened on earth i may end up basing my back story to the game on my theory...hm

 

[Magma_Dragoon]

In other words, the whole shebang is up for grabs: no one has exclusive rights to describe such a future.

Except Firaxis, anything they say is canon is canon

 

[gunnergoz]

Except Firaxis, anything they say is canon is canon

That is a given since it is their game.

OTOH, they have pretty much left it up to us to flesh out the story and seem pretty happy to not elaborate much more than they already have.