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In my last game (Babs/Emp) I have captured The Oracle and The Great Library from the Japanese. When I finished Sun Tzu's, suddenly my GA kicks off. I wasn't the one who build the Oracle and GL, and STAW definitely doesn't correspond with my traits so I was surprised. Why did this happen?
When you complete a wonder, an in-game check is made to see if you own wonders that match all your traits. If all traits are matched, you get a GA (as long as you've not had one already of course). It doesn't matter who built the wonders in the first place and it doesn't matter if the wonder that you've just built doesn't match either of your traits.

Does the despo penalty apply to tiles with bonus resources?
Yes!
 
Does the despo penalty apply to tiles with bonus resources?

Yes, a grassland with a cow gives 4 food, 3 under despotism. since the penalty is already applied, you can irrigate it without loss.

A sugar on plains will function the same as a bonus shield grass tile.
 
Hey so I made my own unit and then I play the scenario w/ him. The turn that he builds this pops up and then it exits the game: “text/Pediaicons.txt.”: ANIMNAME_PRTO_The Early Killer
 
I really am confused.:confused::confused:

This isn't really a question, but...
Ever since I have joined this forum, I have heard endless praise of Republic and how it is the best government. However, I see little to be excited about.

Ever since I started playing this game (two years ago) (and once I learned a few things myself) I figured the best government is Democracy. This, obviously is an opinion, but I think Democracy is MUCH better than Republic. So much so that it just boggles my mind to see so few members advocate Democracy as being the best government.

In my experiences: 1) republic's corruption is much worse than democracy's, and many times it seems to only be a tiny step better than despotism's corruption. 2) I have always needed to support a fairly large army, even though I don't use it (defensive,) and republic's 2gpt unit support is just way too much for my economy. 3) another (albeit, small) bonus is that workers work even faster in democracy than in any other government (besides fascism.)

Adding up all of these experiences, I usually find myself going Despot-Monarchy-Democracy and then stay there (unless my empire is too huge, and Communism would help my production and not stifle my economy.)

Does anyone else feel the same way? Or am I just :mad: (crazy)?
 
Democracy was better in the original Civ3, I think. With Conquests, Republic has become far more overpowered.
 
Ever since I started playing this game (two years ago) (and once I learned a few things myself) I figured the best government is Democracy. This, obviously is an opinion, but I think Democracy is MUCH better than Republic. So much so that it just boggles my mind to see so few members advocate Democracy as being the best government.
In truth, there is a little to choose between Republic and Democracy. Slightly lower corruption and faster workers vs. less WW and better unit support. The main problem is that Democracy comes too late.

In my experiences: 1) republic's corruption is much worse than democracy's, and many times it seems to only be a tiny step better than despotism's corruption.
This is simply wrong.
2) I have always needed to support a fairly large army, even though I don't use it (defensive,) and republic's 2gpt unit support is just way too much for my economy.
And so are defensive armies. Republic supports a an army better than Democracy, especially as your cities grow.
 
In my experiences: 2) I have always needed to support a fairly large army, even though I don't use it (defensive,) and republic's 2gpt unit support is just way too much for my economy.

You can't use and don't need MP's in Republic, so there is FAR less need for defensive units.

The difficulty with Republic usually comes when you first revolt to it, because your civ's economy/infrastructure has not been been prepared for it. Unit support costs are too high, but that only means disbanding regular warriors/archers, building more roads, and getting each town up to size 7+ for the increased unit support. (1 unit for a size 1-6 town, 3 units for size 7-12 city). With Democracy you have to wait soooooo much longer that your towns are already better developed when you make the switch. And unless you are Religious, you probably don't want to revolt more than once during the game.
 
I don't know if it was mentioned, but the big reason most distain Demo, is they do not want to research the optional tech to get to it and then research it.

The other factor is you have to revolt an extra time and that cannot be made up by not religous civs.
 
I understand most of those things, but, like I said: in my experiences, democracy has almost always been the best government for me.

That may mean it is too much work for me (at my level of play) to have the needed infrastructure for the republic to actually work, I don't know...

And, I know Republic is only one step higher corruption than Democracy, but usually, I can see a huge difference in corruption levels between Republic and Democracy.

I realize it takes two revolutions to go republic (or monarch) then democracy, but, really, if by the late middle ages, 5, 6, or 7 turns anarchy is gonna kill you, then you aren't doing well enough anyway.
 
Depotism has 3/2 the distance corruption of republic, and republic has a 10% higher OCN. Democracy has 3/4 the distance corruption of republic. I looked at a random save, and the income in republic would be 2082 and the income in democracy would be 2085.
 
Actually, if you play levels like Monarch, it does not matter what you do, you win, with no stress. The point that is so key is that at levels like Demi or better or AW, you cannot afford to waste time researching the techs needed to get to Demo.

The AI is streaking for them and you are better off getting something else. Seven turns off anarchy is going to hurt very much at that point in the game.

Corruption is not my concern at any point. My core is not corrupt and I do what I can for the rest of the empire. Not to mention the WW is going to be more painful at demo. Again that is no issue, if you play Monarch as you will be able to dictate the length and timing of wars.
 
OK, I have one more question. Whenever I build a wonder it always says that it can't be built anymore. Is this because only one country can build that wonder. I got really angry when I was 3\4 finished building the TOE and it said I can't build it anymore. And then it switched to a police station which lost me a few hundred shields :mad:.
 
You can only have one of each great wonder per game. The first civ that gets it wins the wonder race. You should get a popup saying it was built by so-and-so and then you need to change to something else before the governer changes it for you.
 
Where should you zip mods to on Civ 3? Mine is already saved, now what?
There's no zipping involved. Just save the modified .biq file to your ..\conquests\scenarios folder and then 'load scenario' from the main menu. This assumes C3C. Vanilla and PTW have their own scenarios folder so you need to make sure you are putting it in the right place.
 
Hey so I made my own unit and then I play the scenario w/ him. The turn that he builds this pops up and then it exits the game: “text/Pediaicons.txt.”: ANIMNAME_PRTO_The Early Killer
There's either a typo or missing entry in the pediaicons.txt file for the unit in question. For more help, go to the creation & customization forum.
 
That may mean it is too much work for me (at my level of play) to have the needed infrastructure for the republic to actually work, I don't know...
Could be a number of things. Maybe your army is too large for just standing around? Maybe it's large and outdated? Maybe you can look to use your ability to trade to keep the AI happy rather than have a huge defensive force and rely on your power rating (which is not solely based upon your military strength) to deter attacks? Maybe you haven't got enough cities? Maybe you haven't invested in enough workers to build those roads to ensure that you are getting the commerce bonus? How about setting up a thread with a save, inviting suggestions?

I realize it takes two revolutions to go republic (or monarch) then democracy, but, really, if by the late middle ages, 5, 6, or 7 turns anarchy is gonna kill you, then you aren't doing well enough anyway.
Well as vmxa has already said, you can get away with a lot on the lower levels but play a Deity or Sid game and see what seven turns of anarchy does to you! Then again, if you use Monarchy in a peaceful way at this level, the AI will probably be out of sight already and so you may not actually notice any difference. ;)

OK, I have one more question. Whenever I build a wonder it always says that it can't be built anymore. Is this because only one country can build that wonder. I got really angry when I was 3\4 finished building the TOE and it said I can't build it anymore. And then it switched to a police station which lost me a few hundred shields :mad:.
Have you got the Show Wonder Initiation Pop-Up checked in the preferences? It will let you know when civs that you have met are starting to build a wonder. I'm not sure if it is also needed for the info that watorrey mentions as I always play with that setting on anyway.
 
Have you got the Show Wonder Initiation Pop-Up checked in the preferences? It will let you know when civs that you have met are starting to build a wonder.

You can also press F7 and see all the completed wonders and the wonders under construction by the civ's you know. You can even see the city locations which is useful info when planning wars.
 
Have you got the Show Wonder Initiation Pop-Up checked in the preferences? It will let you know when civs that you have met are starting to build a wonder. I'm not sure if it is also needed for the info that watorrey mentions as I always play with that setting on anyway.

Thanks Tone :). That's what was the problem, I didn't have show wonder initiation Pop-Up on. But if it pops up and says that a civ is building a wonder, would you risk trying to build it faster than that civ? What I would do, If it show s the name of the A.I's city that is building the wonder, I would investigate it and check how many turns it has left to comleteing the wonder. Then I would compare which one will be completed faster. If the A.I will build the wonder faster, then I would switch to something else.
 
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