No. The points are not reset. They are kept. It is just so that you donnot gain any more points and all existing (positive) points donnot have any effect. For Nonnegative points i had tested this, the Civ3Multitool allows to read out those WW-points. The role of war happiness i did not investigate.
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No. The points are not reset. They are kept. It is just so that you donnot gain any more points and all existing (positive) points donnot have any effect. For Nonnegative points i had tested this, the Civ3Multitool allows to read out those WW-points. The role of war happiness i did not investigate.
tjs282
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Currently messing about with my first attempt at the Sengoku Conquest at Emp. Holding my own, but currently stalled in the mid-game because my Ninja are ninje-ing completely ineffectively against the Daimyo of my current target -- who is down to 2 towns -- and those apparently superhuman **** D=5 warrior-monks that every AI seems to have piled in their capitals, are skewering my A=7 Mounted Samurai in droves (I just hope I have Saltpeter when Gunpowder comes in, in a couple of turns' time -- or I'll need to build [EDIT]some Fire Cannon a big stack of Siege-Crossbows...[/EDIT]).
But 'How to win this?' is not my question; my question is to do with the Stealth-attack target-list, because that's not a feature I've used very much before. While my Ninja aren't having the desired effect (of assassinating my target's King), it did occur to me to wonder how the target-list is ordered. The Daimyo-unit always seems to be near/at the bottom, so does the list use the same ordering priority as the 'top-defender' selection, strongest to weakest (i.e. I should hit the units at the bottom of the list first)? Or is it just random?
(I'm sure this has already been covered somewhere on CFC, but I still haven't figured out what trick(s) I need to use the XenForo search-function effectively -- i.e. to get a shortlist of results that falls in that happy medium between "every post ever posted that might possibly match, including those for all other Civ-versions"
and "zero" 
-- so if someone could give me some pointers on that score as well, I'd appreciate it...)
But 'How to win this?' is not my question; my question is to do with the Stealth-attack target-list, because that's not a feature I've used very much before. While my Ninja aren't having the desired effect (of assassinating my target's King), it did occur to me to wonder how the target-list is ordered. The Daimyo-unit always seems to be near/at the bottom, so does the list use the same ordering priority as the 'top-defender' selection, strongest to weakest (i.e. I should hit the units at the bottom of the list first)? Or is it just random?
(I'm sure this has already been covered somewhere on CFC, but I still haven't figured out what trick(s) I need to use the XenForo search-function effectively -- i.e. to get a shortlist of results that falls in that happy medium between "every post ever posted that might possibly match, including those for all other Civ-versions"
and "zero" -- so if someone could give me some pointers on that score as well, I'd appreciate it...)
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For landunits I made the observation that in my mods and scenarios the AI normally tries to take out the strongest offensive landunit (=the unit with the strongest attack value) that is in the list of stealth attack targets: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/ccm-epic-mod-preview-thread.291104/page-13#post-8222850
I have not used it much here, but my general solution to a sites poor build in search function is to use google. If you add the search term site:forums.civfanatics.com it will return only results from that site, using google quite good search algorithm. I have tried it for this query and it does not help much, but worth bearing in mind.(I'm sure this has already been covered somewhere on CFC, but I still haven't figured out what trick(s) I need to use the XenForo search-function effectively -- i.e. to get a shortlist of results that falls in that happy medium between "every post ever posted that might possibly match, including those for all other Civ-versions"
I'm not sure I understand your question?! As far as I know, there is no "trick" to it. Last time I used it (in a PBEM game, which used the somewhat simplified version of the Sengoku Scenario for 8 players) you could just select any unit from that list you wished, and the Ninja attacked it. I actually used that feature to kill the Daimyo of one of the other human players, who had not yet discovered the tech for that Warrior Monk unit, so could not yet see my invisible Ninjas...
tjs282
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No, I understand how to select a specific target on the Stealth-attack target-menu -- but on my first assassination-run, all 4 of my Ninjas lost 1HP to Samurai-Archer def-bombs before they got to the Daimyo, who then killed them and got promoted to Grandmaster. So on the second run, I wanted to try taking out some/all of the Archers first, before sending my Ninjas back in against the Daimyo -- but since the target-list gives neither A/D-values, nor HP remaining, there is no visible indication of which potential target(s) is/are the weakest. However, if the enemy units are presented in the same order as e.g. the defender-order for normal, non-Stealth combats (i.e. high-D*HP units at the top, low-D*HP units at the bottom), then it would make 'sense' to try andI'm not sure I understand your question?! As far as I know, there is no "trick" to it. Last time I used it (in a PBEM game, which used the somewhat simplified version of the Sengoku Scenario for 8 players) you could just select any unit from that list you wished, and the Ninja attacked it. I actually used that feature to kill the Daimyo of one of the other human players, who had not yet discovered the tech for that Warrior Monk unit, so could not yet see my invisible Ninjas...
the lowest-level 'defenders' first.Spoiler Jaw... dropped :
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I have some experience with the EFZI scenario in which you can use some stealth units to target specific enemies. Getting the correct Sated Alpha Zombie you've already bombed down is almost impossible, but I *think* the order is that in which they were created. At least that was a probable hypothesis when I played it a few months ago.
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if am following the discussion correctly , ı have grown to like attacking archers first . They fire a defensive volley which might hurt my attacking unit but their defence is weaker compared to pikemen or equivalent . With enough numbers on my side ı can really leave troublesome units to the end .
There's also the fact that they are far better attackers than Samurai Spearmen, and that having such a decrease in offensive power might render the AI more willing to negotiate (as far as the AI can ever be said to be rational).
It was my first ever PBEM and I was so scared that I played every turn at 100%... I did some good trading with others and reached Feudalism first, and then bee-lined along the optional path (getting a free tech for Philosophy). The other player played more or less for himself (didn't trade too much, I suspect), was at most Regent level and also was not familiar with the Scenario (as far as I can tell), so he either underestimated the time, when Ninjas would become available to the tech leader, or did not know all the units of the game and which tech made them available?! In any case, when he reached the next age, he first went for other techs in the Bujutsu-branch instead of getting Bojutsu first.
My starting tribe was the Takeda, which is pretty much average I would say. (In the multi-player version of the Sengoku Scenario, all start positions are pretty much balanced in my opinion, except for the Mori tribe, which is at a real disadvantage: has slightly worse land than the others, will get boxed in quite early and needs longer than anybody else before it gets all contacts. And perhaps the Imagawa tribe, because it doesn't have fresh water for its capital.
tjs282
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No, not exactly.
If an Archer is part of a stack, but is not the top defender within the stack, then when the stack-defender is attacked, the Archer will always fire one 'defensive-volley' against the incoming attacker, once per (inter)turn. Whether or not that bombardment 'hits' the attacker is calculated by the RNG in the usual way: the Archer's B-value is matched against the incoming attacker's defensive strength (D), and if the bombardment 'wins', it removes 1 hit-point from the attacker.
Spoiler Worked example :
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OK,thank you much again.That D from B/[B+D](spoiler example) is the defense of swordman,of spearman,or total defense of both archers? If 2 swordmen attack a stack with 4 archers,4 warriors,each swordman has chance 4x(1/[1+2])=4/3 to loose 1 HP from bombard or other is formula?
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tjs282
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Yes. It would probably have been clearer if I'd written BArcher1/[BArcher1+DSword1], but I was too lazy to add all the {sub}{/sub} tags
(We need a sub/superscript option in the toolbar, Mr Thunderfall!)
No
No. The total number of units in the stack is irrelevant to the attacking unit's D-value, and only one defensive bombardment will be fired per attack. So if only 2 Swords attack, only 2 Archers will shoot -- one Archer-shot per Sword-attack -- and each Sword has a 1/3 chance of losing 1HP from that bombardment.
Yes. It would probably have been clearer if I'd written BArcher1/[BArcher1+DSword1], but I was too lazy to add all the {sub}{/sub} tags
(We need a sub/superscript option in the toolbar, Mr Thunderfall!)
So if I understand this defensive bombardment formula correctly, for it to work properly the bombard strength of units with defensive bombardment would have to scale with the defense strength of units as more advanced and stronger units become availabe?
For example, an Archer would get pretty lousy chances of damaging a Modern Armor, correct?
tjs282
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Yup. Well, that is, less chance than they would have of damaging a Warrior or Sword, say. Against a Tank (D=8) the damage-prob would be 1/9, rather than 1/2 or 1/3. But 1/9 is still >10%, so an Archer might still be able to scratch the paintwork, before he got squished...
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