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General_W
Councilor & Merlot Noble
Again, CivAssist won’t read this turn file! 
(I can't open save files 131 or 132. They open in Civilization to play just fine.)
I’ve reinstalled CivAssist, and still no luck… I can open every file that is BC and older… but everything past 0 AD won’t open… this is the only difference I can find. Anyone have any ideas?
The error text I get from CivAssist is really generic... it says this...
Please help!
Can anyone open the save files in CivAssist? Is it just me?
(I can't open save files 131 or 132. They open in Civilization to play just fine.)
I’ve reinstalled CivAssist, and still no luck… I can open every file that is BC and older… but everything past 0 AD won’t open… this is the only difference I can find. Anyone have any ideas?
The error text I get from CivAssist is really generic... it says this...
Please help!
Can anyone open the save files in CivAssist? Is it just me?
fe3333au
Deity
I'm still getting wierd City options in Espionage screen for TNT as well. 
It may be a coincidence but these 'glitches' started when Donsig started zipping the save.
It may be a coincidence but these 'glitches' started when Donsig started zipping the save.
RegentMan
Deity
Hmmm... I can't open the save with Civ Assist II either.
I have exactly the same in a different PBEM.General_W said:Again, CivAssist won’t read this turn file!
(I can't open save files 131 or 132. They open in Civilization to play just fine.)
I’ve reinstalled CivAssist, and still no luck… I can open every file that is BC and older… but everything past 0 AD won’t open… this is the only difference I can find. Anyone have any ideas?
The error text I get from CivAssist is really generic... it says this...
Please help!
Can anyone open the save files in CivAssist? Is it just me?
I had it after Gmail started keeping attachments zipped. My theory is that Gmail got an "update", automatically zipping files, and that that damages the saves a tiny bit. Not enough to become unplayable, but enough to be unopenable in CivAssist II.fe3333au said:I'm still getting wierd City options in Espionage screen for TNT as well.
It may be a coincidence but these 'glitches' started when Donsig started zipping the save.
Test it with a PBEM save you can open, and then send it to a gmail account. I bet the save will be zipped when trying to download it from gmail.
Sucks...
General_W
Councilor & Merlot Noble
Thanks Rik!
(been chatting with him on IM also)
The zip files do seem to be the problem.
Goooooogle!!!!
so we either need to get the file a new way... or else just give up on CivAssist.
Chamnix - what do you use to analyze the saves? (Get the beaker counts etc?)
(been chatting with him on IM also)
The zip files do seem to be the problem.
Goooooogle!!!!
so we either need to get the file a new way... or else just give up on CivAssist.
Chamnix - what do you use to analyze the saves? (Get the beaker counts etc?)
Other teams will suffer from it as well. And all future saves for all teams as well. Can the game admins check which save first started to be buggy ?
fe3333au
Deity
I have added a request in TNT letter for Donsig to send save unzipped next turn ... I will expand on this to explain the CivAssist problem.
This will enable a test.
Out of curiosity, do we send our save zipped?
This will enable a test.
Out of curiosity, do we send our save zipped?
fe3333au said:
No - at least, I don't zip it, although from what Rik said, it may be zipped automatically by gmail.
General_W said:
I use MapStat to check how many units are needed in our border towns to prevent culture flips (and it has still been able to open the most recent saves), but that's about all I use it for - it doesn't have information like CivAssist II wrt individual towns (just population/happiness stuff).
For beaker counts, I just use the number spent on science reported by the in-game Domestic Advisor and manually count up specialists.
General_W
Councilor & Merlot Noble
Gmail now automatically zips files of certain types and sizes. Just started recently. No way to shut it off that I can see. I believe it's a new "Feature"
Anwyay – got some more error info from CivAssist… don't know if it's useful or not:
Anwyay – got some more error info from CivAssist… don't know if it's useful or not:
Spoiler Error Info :
Might wanna give that to Ainwood.
fe3333au
Deity
So the zip we receive is automatic and not a Donsig thing 
... should this be mentioned in the UN? Maybe others are also experiencing this problem.
Actually I have PMed GA and RM ... they are probably in a better position to test this.
... should this be mentioned in the UN? Maybe others are also experiencing this problem.Actually I have PMed GA and RM ... they are probably in a better position to test this.
I'm not quite sure what the problem is, and at any rate, it doesn't look like it's something in our control - I would just try it each turn for a couple turns and see if it goes away. It is probably hard for CA2 to read PBEM files and somehow it caused a glitch. I haven't seen this before...
I know this is a stretch, but.....
Is there a way to rename the .sav in such a way as to make it appear as a BC date?
I regularly rename my saves based on huge game events (like starting a Golden Age, or a war): Cleopatra1640BC.sav becomes Cleo_Golden_Age_start_1640.sav
It may complicate things, but we could simply restart the numbering of AD years thusly:
1.sav
20.sav
40.sav
60.sav
etc.
Don't know if my thoughts were more distractive than helpful, but I'd hate for us to be the only team that has lost access to CivAssistII.
Maybe a Game Admin can let us know if we're alone in this or not?... Simply let us know that "Of the teams using Civ Assist II, x are having success."
Is there a way to rename the .sav in such a way as to make it appear as a BC date?
I regularly rename my saves based on huge game events (like starting a Golden Age, or a war): Cleopatra1640BC.sav becomes Cleo_Golden_Age_start_1640.sav
It may complicate things, but we could simply restart the numbering of AD years thusly:
1.sav
20.sav
40.sav
60.sav
etc.
This, to me, is the strangest part. Gmail has been around for a while. Did it just recently start zipping things? Shamefully, my little trusty compy doesn't really get along well with gmail, so I don't use it. But we're not the only group, nor the first group, of people to be sending Civ3 .sav files through Gmail, so I find it hard to believe that's where the problem resides.GA said:
Don't know if my thoughts were more distractive than helpful, but I'd hate for us to be the only team that has lost access to CivAssistII.
Maybe a Game Admin can let us know if we're alone in this or not?... Simply let us know that "Of the teams using Civ Assist II, x are having success."
Once it has started, it is irreversible; I'm afraid.Ginger_Ale said:
Learn to live without CA2, is my sad conclusion.
I will check it out later tonight and see if I can pin down when/why it happened...
I've asked Ainwood to take a look at it. I've send him Turn 130; which was google-zipped and good and Turn 132; which was google-zipped and corrupt. 131 was corrupt as well, FYI.
General_W
Councilor & Merlot Noble
Thanks Rik!
You've gone beyond the call of duty once again.
Now, I just have to hope Ainwood can figgure something out.
But either way - thanks again!
You've gone beyond the call of duty once again.
Now, I just have to hope Ainwood can figgure something out.
But either way - thanks again!
Let's suppose we discover Gunpowder on turn 144 and gift it to TNT. Also suppose that we have only 1 source of saltpeter and TNT doesn't have any. We want to give TNT saltpeter for 15 turns or so (we want it for ourselves comfortably before turn 166 to upgrade to cavalry). Is it permissible to gift it to TNT for 20 turns then break the deal after 15 turns by pillaging our saltpeter and reconnecting? Here is the relevant rule:
It seems like it should be OK because we are not both using the resource on the same turn, but I'm not sure.
It seems like it should be OK because we are not both using the resource on the same turn, but I'm not sure.
RegentMan
Deity
That looks okay. The rule is there to prevent two teams from using a resource twice in one turn.
