if_only_we_were said:
Wow, just....wow!
That's an extremely comprehensive and easy-to-read (and understand) reference guide! Thanks a lot for the link, I'll make sure to print this out and affix it to the wall in my PC room when I come home
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Wow, just....wow!
That's an extremely comprehensive and easy-to-read (and understand) reference guide! Thanks a lot for the link, I'll make sure to print this out and affix it to the wall in my PC room when I come home
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Grille
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a4phantom said:
You get WH if another civ declares war on you by sneak attacking, after denying tribute demandings or if you ask them out. You then have an arch enemy which makes your folks happy. AFAIK war declarations after failed spy missions do not count, though (not sure about MA/MPP triggered declarations).
Once you have a certian arch enemy, you can get the bonus back even if you declare on them.
25% of each city's citizens get happy due to WH, but the bonus could be eaten up at some point by collecting too much WW-points (for WW-affected govs, that is) in the cause of war. Note that WW-points are not summed up for all your enemies, but kept seperately - whereas the effect of WH (or WW) from each enemy accumulates. This means you could theoretically get 100% happy people when you have at least 4 arch enemies at the same time!
Oystein has made an exhaustive study about WH/WW. WW-points are introduced which define the different levels of WH/WW. The thread is here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=61628&page=1
I've spent a bit of time reading about all the different city placement strategies (RCP, OCP, ICS etc). My question is which of these still work as expected in conquests with the changes to corruption? Also what is the best place to put your FP? I'm not sure how it works in relation to the palace now?
I have read the thread on corruption in C3C but if someone could give me something with more words and less numbers then Id be very appreciative!
I have read the thread on corruption in C3C but if someone could give me something with more words and less numbers then Id be very appreciative!
Got a quick question (C3C, Monarch level). I just entered the Modern Age, got Fission for free since I'm Scientific. I'm leading 4 other civs in science by 5 techs, so this is probably not going to make much difference in the outcome, however I'd like to win as quickly as possible for extra points.
Is it faster to detour to Miniaturization and get the Internet wonder for added research in every city? Or to research Computers, then go straight to all the Space Race techs and build a dozen or so research labs in my core cities while I'm getting Rocketry and Space Flight?
I researched all of the last Industrial techs in 4 turns (at 90% or 100%). I have over 12,000 gold so I can easily run deficit spending for a number of turns, or sell one of my techs around for massive gpt. It'll take me 6 turns though to research Computers at 100%, so I could definitely use slightly faster research to finish ASAP.
Is it faster to detour to Miniaturization and get the Internet wonder for added research in every city? Or to research Computers, then go straight to all the Space Race techs and build a dozen or so research labs in my core cities while I'm getting Rocketry and Space Flight?
I researched all of the last Industrial techs in 4 turns (at 90% or 100%). I have over 12,000 gold so I can easily run deficit spending for a number of turns, or sell one of my techs around for massive gpt. It'll take me 6 turns though to research Computers at 100%, so I could definitely use slightly faster research to finish ASAP.
First and easyest, RCP no longer works in conquests. If you have not patched it, then it works in reverse, ie. they all get the highest rank, rather than the lowest. In 1.15 it works fairly though.
The other 2, I never use but I do not think will have changed.
There was a thread a while back that looked at this, but I cannot find it. I think the result was that the best distance was about 10 tiles on a standard map, but the difference was not great in the range he looked at, so it would be more important to get it early, and get it in a city with decent production/commerce.
[EDIT] I found the thread. It is message #199 on http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=81424&page=10&pp=20 Basicly, it seemed to not make that much difference where he put it.
It works by -
Increasing OCN by some ammount (50%?)
Reducing distance corruption in cities closer to the forbiden palace that the palace. This last one is the only effect that is changed by its location.
I know what you mean, the formulas are a bit absract for me. This is how it was described to me. You have 2 graphs, with a similar shape. One is distance corruption and the other is rank corruption. They start at 0 and got up from there. They start with a low gradient, and at about 30% corruption the gradient increases. The rank corruption one gets to 100% at OCN, not sure about the distance corruption one. To work out the total corruption of a city, you some the corruption figure from the citys location on the 2 graphs. The courthouse moves the city down the rank graph by some amount (15%?).
I do not know if this makes any sence to you, or even if it is correct. This is how I think about it anyway.
I am not sure how this effects game play anyway. I guess the important things are -
Citys over the the OCN will never have usefull uncorrupted stuff (lots of other things they can do though).
Try not to have small citys closer to your capital than your decent big citys.
HTH
Grille
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dze27 said:
Hmm, if you want to 'just' win ASAP, you could build the UN and try a diplo win (maybe you even have a wonder pre-build)?
Assuming the other civs are not all furious towards you...
If you want to go for space race victory, I think the Internet is indeed the right choice. Make sure to order a palace as pre-build now.
Maybe it does not make that much of a difference in comparison to researching computers. But aiming for comps and eventually pre-building labs in core cities (and/or disbanding units there) to get the labs ASAP would of course take much more micro-managing time.
Good luck!
Mistfit
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@grille - winning quickly is not the same as getting the most points you may be interested in "Milking"
SEE THIS: Milk it baby
SEE THIS: Milk it baby
Grille
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Well, I assumed dze27 did not want to milk the game in particular, but to achieve a quick (probably space race) victory...
Mistfit
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many people assume that the game gives bonus's for quick finishes. I personally don't think it does. I am not patient enough to milk a game myself but have read of people doing it. I believe that is why the GOTM has moved to the Jason scoring system to correct that part of the scoring system
It gives a bonus of (540 - (win turn)) * (level modifier)
I'm fairly certain the Gold Edition includes the PTW expansion pack. It won't include Conquests.
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No it doesn't
You multiply how many years you have left by the level modifier. So if it was 10AD, and you were playing on Regent, it would be:
2040 * 3 = Additional Score
Note: you would add whatever score accumulated previous to that.
It is vanilla civ, with PTW, and with one of the PTW patches - I think it might be 1.21f
I wasn't 100% sure about if there were extra points or not for finishing quickly. In any case, it was more about optimizing everything to beat the other civs in the Space Race than actually getting points, although points are nice too. I don't think I'll ever have the patience for pure milking strategies.
Diplo is a possibility, but there's always a possibility of losing right there and then
I'll go for the Internet. I can always launch a surgical strike on an opposing capital if they somehow catch up with me. Thanks for the advice!
Diplo is a possibility, but there's always a possibility of losing right there and then
I'll go for the Internet. I can always launch a surgical strike on an opposing capital if they somehow catch up with me. Thanks for the advice!
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havoc242
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I fineily decided to move up to regent any tips 
I recently made the same transition, and I have two quick bits of advice: 1. play as the Ottomans on a large map or the Persians on a small map and 2. don't get frustrated and give up. The first time I played, a whole lot went wrong (I got burned several times on Wonders, being turns away from one when suddenly the AIs would sweep them all off the table, leaving me with a lot of wasted shields, the AI expanded quickly and took several spots I was aiming for, etc) and I thought I was screwed. So, I chickened out and started again. I didn't start much better the second time, but I stuck with it and by the industrial age had almost the lead I did while playing Warlord.
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