Random personalities: Isa (Deity)
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The good thing with Rifle/Cannon is that it can deal with everything until Infantry without any problems. And if you have the land lead it can deal with everything until heavy air or tanks. It is solid but slow and since you never lose a unit you just steamroll everything with your avalanche.
The bad thing is that you need 2 different tech paths, that means you can not Lib the whole thing. And on deity it seems smart to just Lib yourself some military win. If you Lib Rifling you might as well go for Cavalry. Did that before and it works like on any other difficulty: build 20 units, rightclick, win.
If you Lib Steel you are stuck with a bunch of weakish units to support your stack until Rifling and you usually lack at least Replaceable Parts and Rifling. Since waiting is boring you then start the 1st war with Muskets/Pikes/Cannons. By the time you are done you have Rifling for the 2nd war and face rifles and/or a peace vassal nonsense.
The good thing about Cuirs is that they handle every counter pretty well. Besides formation pikes in big numbers perhaps. And Conquistadors can even deal with that.
If you plan your war right you can take a city every turn. You are in fact so fast that you can avoid the defenders stack and a peace vassal via the 10 turn peace treaty, which often is enough. Compared to Rifle/Cannon this approach often wins the game before the other one even starts. And if you get into trouble a.k.a. they get Rifling, you just go for Cavalry.
Yanner posted a game some time ago where he was around Lib. I played his save, took Rifling with Lib, teched Military Tradition, went Cavalry and it took me about 30 turns from there to go from about 20% land + 1 vassal to Domination. Do that with Cannons.
gorf37
Warlord
Good write-up Mylene. After reading a comment from you about Conq's I went and had a very fun game with Izzy.
I had to trade for iron just to make them, but the 50 turns after that trade was made were absolutely zany. I first took down Holy Rome, then got backstabbed by Kublai Khan (my iron supplier). I then ran my stack up to vassal him. Then I brought my stack home to protect against Shaka's stack. When I managed at 10 turn treaty with him, I used the 10 turns to rush through Kublai's land to smash WvO's small 5 city empire, and then rushed back home to prepare for the final war vs. Shaka. Good times!
I absolutely love Izzy for her traits and UU. I'm sure the citadel is good, but haven't leveraged it well up to now. I definitely find openings more challenging with her, thanks to the starting techs.
I had to trade for iron just to make them, but the 50 turns after that trade was made were absolutely zany. I first took down Holy Rome, then got backstabbed by Kublai Khan (my iron supplier). I then ran my stack up to vassal him. Then I brought my stack home to protect against Shaka's stack. When I managed at 10 turn treaty with him, I used the 10 turns to rush through Kublai's land to smash WvO's small 5 city empire, and then rushed back home to prepare for the final war vs. Shaka. Good times!
I absolutely love Izzy for her traits and UU. I'm sure the citadel is good, but haven't leveraged it well up to now. I definitely find openings more challenging with her, thanks to the starting techs.
Welcome back to this program, for a final update (i have to finish my own threads, after all...!)
Queen Isabella quickly realized, the time is right to take over the world.
Much was left to be seen, like...
a barbarian invasion, hmmm what to do..?
...War Princess Boudica's well thought out battle plans:
(I was wondering where her army is, and why she didn't capitulate with 1 city left
)
The smart peoples of the Spanish Empire approached their Queen:
"Milady, we crafted better Rifles for our Raiders. I think they call it Cavalry, in distant lands."
"What? ..... Iam proud of my elite troops, no upgrades needed!"
Her Majestys wish is my command, resulting in a game...how many Conquistadors can i whip?
All good things come to an end thou, and the osmanian fleabag was the last enemy to bow before our Queen. However, there was still Boudi's stack ~~
May i present, Battle Royale!
In the red corner...*drum rolls*...the spanish battalions:
Their opponents, the respectable Celtic army:
...and so it begins...
...a glorious victory for the spanish army, applause applause
After this demonstration of power, Mehmed forgot what he was about to do, and refused to bow before Isabella...
...delaying my winning date, how rude
A chance for the Battle Royale Veterans to pay him a visit, before laying down their weapons forever.
After a sneaky attack on his special troops, he had enough. And that's a game
The population was moaning, Santiago's slaves took the hardest hit in this endless war:
...but the Queen is happy!
Cyas next time
Queen Isabella quickly realized, the time is right to take over the world.
Much was left to be seen, like...
a barbarian invasion, hmmm what to do..?
Spoiler :
Spoiler :
...War Princess Boudica's well thought out battle plans:
Spoiler :
(I was wondering where her army is, and why she didn't capitulate with 1 city left
)The smart peoples of the Spanish Empire approached their Queen:
"Milady, we crafted better Rifles for our Raiders. I think they call it Cavalry, in distant lands."
"What? ..... Iam proud of my elite troops, no upgrades needed!"
Her Majestys wish is my command, resulting in a game...how many Conquistadors can i whip?
Spoiler :
All good things come to an end thou, and the osmanian fleabag was the last enemy to bow before our Queen. However, there was still Boudi's stack ~~
May i present, Battle Royale!
In the red corner...*drum rolls*...the spanish battalions:
Spoiler :
Their opponents, the respectable Celtic army:
Spoiler :
...and so it begins...
Spoiler :
...a glorious victory for the spanish army, applause applause
Spoiler :
After this demonstration of power, Mehmed forgot what he was about to do, and refused to bow before Isabella...
Spoiler :
...delaying my winning date, how rude
A chance for the Battle Royale Veterans to pay him a visit, before laying down their weapons forever.
Spoiler :
After a sneaky attack on his special troops, he had enough. And that's a game
Spoiler :
The population was moaning, Santiago's slaves took the hardest hit in this endless war:
Spoiler :
...but the Queen is happy!
Spoiler :
Cyas next time
Jester Fool
Emperor
The Queen deserves to be happy. Nicely played.
strijder20
Wallowing in irony
Great.
Given this is Deity, and you are teching Gunpowder by 375 AD (a great feat, I'm stunned. I can't even achieve this on Noble on non-earth map, but I suppose the blazing tech rate of the AI helps) Toku may upgrade his swords to Samurais before declaring. He may even get Trebs. And Samurai + trebuchet can do quite some damage.
Looking forward to see how this continues.
Given this is Deity, and you are teching Gunpowder by 375 AD (a great feat, I'm stunned. I can't even achieve this on Noble on non-earth map, but I suppose the blazing tech rate of the AI helps) Toku may upgrade his swords to Samurais before declaring. He may even get Trebs. And Samurai + trebuchet can do quite some damage.
Looking forward to see how this continues.
Teching on Deity Pangaea maps occurs quickly because you have competent (aka "outrageously bonuses") trade partners unlike on Noble.
Also, just played a Emp game with Isabella where I peacefully expanded to 6 cities, turtled until MiliTrad/Gunpowder, then wrecked people. Playing with Conqs when you're ahead in tech basically feels like you're playing Tanks vs. Riflemen.
Also, just played a Emp game with Isabella where I peacefully expanded to 6 cities, turtled until MiliTrad/Gunpowder, then wrecked people. Playing with Conqs when you're ahead in tech basically feels like you're playing Tanks vs. Riflemen.
