Ranking which Civs the AI plays best

I think the planer gate is to pricy, and if it were cheaper the sheaim might do better?
 
I think the planer gate is to pricy, and if it were cheaper the sheaim might do better?

Considering that it's too useful i don't think it's pricy, and whatever is its price Sheaim should prioritize this building because it is the building which gives them those special units
 
The Balseraphs always do very, very well. The Doveillo under Mahala can snowball if they get an early conquest. The Kurorites and Sidar can do well tech wise if they are not attacked.
 
Yeah, Luichirp are bad. And I find the Doviello are almost always at the bottom of the list.
Khazad do well points-wise but eventually die off from too few cities (too few even for the dwarves).

Charadon does go to the bottom, but usually only after killing one AI civ, capturing all their cities, and destroying his economy.
 
the Clan always rocks the other civs in my games.
 
in the game I am playing dain started owning right off the bat he was science and settling machine :blush:
 
Faeryl Viconia is the leader of the Svartalfar, not the Ljosalfar.

She has been very successful in my only longer game so far - a monstrous empire without waging war, which isn't supposed to be their strength.

*Shrugs.* In my game she made like seven cities by the time I had three. She kept making stupid demands of me and eventually got ticked off and declared war - without an army. I proceeded to run over and trample about four of her cities, capturing them (I didn't have to worry about maintenance since I was Cordith Lorda), and then pillaging her remaining stuff. Now she has the lowest score in the game after Tebryn (who I've culturally confounded to literally a one-tile narrow "crescent" at the end of an island). She was doing well until she stupidly declared war on me.
 
The civs I usually see up in the score are Calabim and Balseraph, practically in every game. Ljosafar usually do quite well, too. I have not been able to see them much, yet, but the new Sidar seem to be doing fine in Shadow.
 
Charadon does go to the bottom, but usually only after killing one AI civ, capturing all their cities, and destroying his economy.

I recently started a game with game options:
Random personalities
Unrestricted leaders
and advanced start 2800 points.

Alexis went to be the leader of the Amurites and she's at the top
Next came Charadon as leader of the Luchuirp, quite astonishing.
I believe there was some other leaders who usually do bad that went strong too.

However, Hyborem as leader of the Malakim did very well in the beginning, but his cities doesn't get more than 1 population, ever.
 
Hyborem's trait makes him unsuitible for any civ other than his own.

Yes, I kinda thought that. Never the less, he shouldn't be able to become the leader of the AI if you turn on unrestricted leaders, because that kinda removes one AI from the game.
He's just a bugger at the start of the game.
 
Strangely, I've seen the Hippus turn into superpowers in my last two games. Playing on Emperor, they got their score to be twice as high as their nearest competitor. Weird. Similar thing happened with the Lanun in an ealier game.

Asides from that, I find that the Ljosalfar, if they live trough the early game, generally turn into an economic powerhouse.
 
Ljosalfar did well in my last game. A little too well, winning a religious victory before I even had time to found the religion I wanted. This was on a large pangea with 12 civs (no dwarves).

The Balseraph usually do well. Malakim not being far behind. Even so if I were to name a best leader it would have to be Mahala. Not because he's always doing well - many times he isn't. But when he's doing well he can really run away with the game.

Hyborem is the worst. I have never seen him amount to anything. Then again, the time I played as him recently I was fighting an ever increasing flood of ljosalfar/mercurian units with only Hyborem strong enough to survive outside my territory, so I guess there's a reason for it.
 
Hyborem's trait makes him unsuitible for any civ other than his own.

Speaking of, that brings up a good point. I haven't had him die while playing the demons. When he does, though, losing his trait could be a problem (or a benefit). Once Hyborem dies, then his cities start growing?

I think that should be a function of their civilization. Probably in the capitol. Fixes the unrestricted leaders, and some weirdness when Hyborem dies. Kill him early, and his cities can grow decently. Kill him late, and that 250 population city is going to drain pretty quickly.
 
This is an interesting thing I've noticed, but anytime Malakim have a desert start, especially if I start nowhere near them, they end up leading the AI score charts by a long shot. Especially in Niki-Knight's map... they usually end up 40% or MORE ahead of the 2nd place AI. They mass expand, they conquer neighbors either physically or religiously. (Never seen so many AI civs convert to good from neutral than when Malakim starts out next to them...) And thats been pretty typical in my games pre Shadow (though it was more like 20% ahead then) and post Shadow as well. I don't think my results are typical but when you get 10+ game streaks where your just playing the same AI powerhouse each game its ridiculous.
 
Yeah, woulda thought Hanah would do well near water because of her financial trait.
 
Mogroth, Faeryl Viconia, and Auric Ulvin usually do quite well. The Clan tends to give the appearance of strength, but almost always proves itself a paper tiger.
 
Speaking of, that brings up a good point. I haven't had him die while playing the demons. When he does, though, losing his trait could be a problem (or a benefit). Once Hyborem dies, then his cities start growing?

I think that should be a function of their civilization. Probably in the capitol. Fixes the unrestricted leaders, and some weirdness when Hyborem dies. Kill him early, and his cities can grow decently. Kill him late, and that 250 population city is going to drain pretty quickly.

he already doesn't lose fallow when he dies.
 
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