Ratha (Indian Chariot) Project

[Takhisis]

I haven't made a bowstring yet. Tomorrow it's quiver and arrow day.

The golden loops to the side are the pieces I used to make the bow-thought it'd be better to keep spares just in case.
[pre]Page eight snypah![/pre]

 

[Takhisis]

I added a quiver at the waist, I'll be trying one slung on the back later.

And also reworked the shoulders, I think that they look better now. This is going nicely.

 

[Takhisis]

Another preview, slight modifications. I think the arms might be too short. And I did really make a long bow. Guess the quiver has to have more room for bigger arrows.
.

 

[Takhisis]

Added bowstring and arrow:

With some scaling, they can be turned into shorter bows/arrows if needed.
What is this arya thing in the first page for? Is it some sort of flag?

Spoiler :

 

[Blue Monkey]

8 PMs

Spoiler :

8 Pms, nice, it'll take some time to condense them into something else.

... As usual, don't be afraid of giving too much detail ...

.That's why I tried to head up each forwarded pm with a brief statement about what to pay attention to and what to ignore. I could have done the condensing. But right now you're working so quickly that I need to scramble to keep up with you. For example, it took 2 hours to pull this post together.

Spoiler :

What difficulty?

I have two methods and I'm not completely sure which one to do. But both take a lot of pressing the F key.

Textures

Spoiler :

The wooden square that I put on the wooden sleepers was this one...

I grabbed it. I'll see what I can do. It may be a few days until I have something to show you.

Most of the golden armour and equipment on the 'special' chariot's riders will be replaced by bronze and iron. I can dig up some rusty iron from the repository at parastudios if needed.

Bronze or iron fine. Rusty definitely not.

Chattra

Spoiler :

OK, chattra improved

Looks good. The next step with it would be to add the pennant. Speaking of which. It would be great if you could include a simple finial atop the pole. Like a pair of wings. The pictures of Arjuna's ratha have his heraldic animal - a rampant monkey - but I think that's too complicated.
thumbnail

Archer

Spoiler :

So, you want one driver and one archer on it, right? Just to clarify.

yessireebob!

Added bowstring and arrow: ...With some scaling, they can be turned into shorter bows/arrows if needed.

The bow shape is fantastic! I'd like to get a model of this length (for future foot units) & then have you make a slightly shorter version for the ratha archer. Made a picture of the length that looks right to me:
thumbnail


I'm concerned that all this scaling is being done to what can't be the final model of the riders.

Arya

Spoiler :

What is this arya thing in the first page for? Is it some sort of flag?

It's Arya written in Sanskrit. It's what they called themselves.

As for what to do with it - excerpts from the previous discussion:

I think the texture needs to be really strong to be visible. Perhaps the Arya symbol can be used as the basis for a texture (on the right). I feel sheepish making the suggestion because I really have no idea how textures are made. And my quick paste jobs really don't do justice to what you can accomplish.

I have a few ideas of how to make the texturing less subtle...using the Arya symbol could definitely fit in doing just that. But I'm guessing I can't just mirror the symbol for the other side. Any suggestions there?

I actually was thinking of the Arya as mirrored on the other side. ... I think the suggestion of wings it offers as a texture works very well for the ratha mythos - each Hindu god has a "vehicle" which is normally called a vahana ("mount") but is also referred to as a ratha. Krishna (Arjuna's charioteer in the Kurukshetra War) has Garuda (an anthropomorphised eagle) for his vehicle.

My vague understanding is that it becomes a bump map - making the metal surface look embossed. It's okay to shrink it, stretch it (or whatever) to make it fit. Here's a rough placement on your model:
thumbnail

On the wooden version it could just look painted on - a good place for civ-color.

 

[Takhisis]

I'll make a coloured triangle and give it cloth settings. I've never worked wwith those before so I'm doing it by the book, following Noob to Pro.
btw, Bow reduced to .75 on the left with corresponding reduction in sample arrow, normal size on the right with standrd 'long' arrow:

Now for the pennant.

 

[Blue Monkey]

Bow looks great.

Have you tried importing the paperdoll into Blender? I ask because it's already proportioned to fit in with the Firaxis units & it's the de facto standard here - people like Sandris & Plotinus amongst many others use it.

 

[Takhisis]

Bow and arrows resized, added pennant and a little mast. Sorry, but the monkey was undoable.

Just in case I made a copy of everything and put it into a PEN drive.
Any good sites for uploading temporary copies?

Have you tried importing the paperdoll into Blender? I ask because it's already proportioned to fit in with the Firaxis units & it's the de facto standard here - people like Sandris & Plotinus amongst many others use it.

Nope, the standard guy is doing fine by now, maybe when i turn to editing the soldiers themselves I'll do that.

 

[Blue Monkey]

Bow and arrows resized, added pennant and a little mast. Sorry, but the monkey was undoable.

Drop the monkey. It's one of those "in a perfect world" things.



It's really starting to look like the heavy ratha I imagined! I know when the model is finished someone won't be able to resist the urge to animate it.

Just in case I made a copy of everything and put it into a PEN drive.
Any good sites for uploading temporary copies?

You could always use the attachments (semi-private) or the db (public) here. There's a category for models in the db.

 

[Takhisis]

I think I'll go for a Pahari shortsword. I'll try making it leaf-shaped, new experience.
I'll give my archer this turban and armour, they look more or less modellable.

However, he is barefoot in that pic. Should I give him some shoes?

 

[Blue Monkey]

I think I'll go for a Pahari shortsword. I'll try making it leaf-shaped, new experience.
I'll give my archer this turban and armour, they look more or less modellable.

However, he is barefoot in that pic. Should I give him some shoes?

No turban! Wrong era, wrong caste. The helmet I've given you numerous pictures of is the way to go. There's an .obj / prop available in a paperdoll related thread if you don't want to manipulate a cone and or cylinder. I need more details about what you intend for the armor. Barefoot is fine. Or sandals.

 

[Takhisis]

Augh! the shadow moderator thing is spooky.

It's a good thing that I drifted into one-more-turnism and a NotW game, I'll do the sword first then. I wanted to do some sort of scaly armour but can't find the pic, so I'll do #1 for the driver and #2 for the archer, how 'bout that?

Hmmm... let's get to the Pahari for now.

 

[Blue Monkey]

Sounds like a plan.

 

[Takhisis]

I thought the sword was going to be way easier, anyway, here we go.

It's not finished, it still lacks a hilt. But I'll finish the damn thing tomorrow.

 

[Blue Monkey]

Hard to tell without a straight side shot but it looks to me like the blade should be a third longer.

 

[Takhisis]

There you go.

No hilt added yet.

 

[Steph]

I know it's an early work in progress, but for the moment, they look... well... cute

 

[Blue Monkey]

comparing the last preview to the images I've posted confirms my instinct. Blade a little over 1/3 longer. Or think of the whole sword as 4 parts: 1 part grip, 3 parts blade plus a little bit more for the tip.

 

[Takhisis]

Old--->New (blade scaled 1.3x along its length)

 

[Blue Monkey]

Perfectamundo.