RB12 - Roadkill

I'm sorry everyone - a death in the family I learned about yesterday has been overwhelming. I played half of my turn before that, but did not finish, and I am leaving to go out of town for a week. Consider me skipped until I report back in.
 
Prognosis for getting this anytime soon doesn't look good.

Maybe you guys should consider me dropped... I haven't played a turnset in a while and my head isn't really into Civ at the moment. :(
 
Maksim said:
Got it. Are we down to two players now?

I guess.

Current roster:
Xenikos - skip for now
Maksim - up
Knupp715 - on deck

I would presume xenikos would want some lurkers to fill in the open spaces but we will wait a little while until he comes back.
 
And lo and behold, the year was 1700, as the flamboyant and moustache-twirling dynasty of Maximiliano came once more into power. And the people were celebrating the beginning of eighteenth century... until some pedant showed up and droned on about how year 1700 was the last year of the 17th century, and they should wait a year to celebrate.

So naturally they stoned him.

War is being waged against the evil Japanese. This dynasty remembers them well, the sneaky ones, cursed be their names! Yet this time Buddha smiles upon us, as we are at the gates of the city of Edo, simply waiting for a generation or two for its walls to come crashing down.

At home, with proper and careful management enacted by trusty and loyal vassals, life is looking up for the common subjects of Spanish monarchy (raised culture to 10%).

1705 AD – Wimpy Tokugawa offers all his money (250 G) for world peace and puppies. His ambassadors are sent home in pieces, their katanas now adorning the monarch’s second bedroom in the summer residence.

Meanwhile, in humanitarian news, the fine gem dealers of Tiflis adopt the ways of Buddha.

1710 AD – Tokugawa attempts to retake his former capital of Kyoto with but a lone knight. The superiority of Spanish Conquistadores is self-evident in his ignoble demise.

1720 AD – Tokugawa once again attempts a dishonorable attack on Kyoto. His samurai commit seppuku in front of our warriors.

1725 AD – “And now, son, I pass my horse and my sword to you, as I have been sitting in front of this city for the last quarter of the century...”

1730 AD – Education! Attack the city! Kill everyone inside with no casualties! Exchange Education and proceeds from the conquest for Astronomy! Start Economics (for Free Market)!

Overall, an exciting year, as evidenced by the previous paragraph. I chose to go for Economics, as we could use Free Market. Plus one energy on every square is just perfect for us... err... wrong game! Still, with no anarchy we can instate FM straight away, and repair our economy.

1735 AD – Kyoto comes online, and is starving with about seven protesters. Three of them are immediately sacrificed to appease the dread god Cthulhu… err... Buddha! Yes, that’s what our royal highness meant to say! Anyway, we get a harbor out of this as well.

1740 AD – The rest of protesters in Kyoto are sacrificed on the altar of Azathoth. Equal opportunity for all the Elder Gods, we say. Oops!

1745 AD – While the newspapers all over the world (handwritten ones, since nobody has invented printing press yet) talk about the dark secrets of the current Spanish dynasty, the troops march onto Tokyo, defeating their avant-garde.

1750 AD – The citizens of Tokyo are awaiting their doom. Nothing can save them now - not even the downfall of the Maximiliano dynasty, who have been excommunicated as heretics and worshippers of things man was not meant to worship.

So, we should get Economics soon, and Tokyo must fall as well. After that, some infrastructure might be in order – a forbidden palace in Osaka, perhaps?

I canceled our Gold-Incense deal with Peter, as we have our own Gold now. He can be converted to Buddhism, if we have something to offer.

Good luck!
 

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Yes, definitely make peace with Japan after taking Tokyo. If it seems we can't take it, just make peace with them now, and get something out of them.

After that, we need to catch up on the tech tree - we need to build Universities and Observatories everywhere. Free Market will help with the cash.

We could rush towards the Assembly Line and Infantry, I suppose, or play it safe and go for Constitution, Democracy and Liberalism, switch to a more progressive form of government first.

We don't have that many towns but then again, it's a water map, so nobody does. Still, Universal Suffrage may not be that appealing for us.

Going for Sci Method -> Physics and Biology may be beneficial but once again, we don't have enough farms to justify a mad rush.

Assembly Line will help by giving us Lumbermills, but we don't have that many forests.

In short, I didn't really have any objectives for research, so tactical thinking - what's the most useful thing short-term? - took over.
 
OK. Discovered economics and decided to start research on printing press. No techs are pressing but printing press leads to replaceable parts which mean lumbermills which means some production for our nearly hammerless islands.

Changed some civics. We are pagan! This probably isn't the most smartest move being we are spiritual and are the founders of the largest religion in the world (21%). I switch to theocracy, free market, and since we are getting experience from theocracy now, we no longer need vassalage so I also switch to bureaucracy. The theocracy and bureaucracy switch can be changed. We may want to switch to organized religion if we want but it's all open to discussion and us being spiritual, we can be flexible and switch to whatever we think will benifit us at that moment.

Got engineering (although the +1 movement on roads won't help us much :lol: ), Divine Right, and about 600 gold from Kublai and Pete by trading them economics. Most everyone else had the tech so we might as well get something off it. btw, we have around 900 gold in the treasury if we want to do some serious upgrades.

I was able to capture Tokyo at the cost of two suicide cats and 2 maces (one of which had 80.9% odds). I then signed peace with him for his WM, 1gpt, and 30g. He wouldn't give us any techs which isn't a suprise seeing how it is so hard to get techs off AI's once you beat them in wars and of course it is Toku we are talking about.



We have a defensive pak with Kublai Khan. He is our only friend IIRC. No wonder Cyrus is so powerful. He owns three continents, two islands, and is sharing another is Kublai.







And the save:
 
Maksim said:
Yes, definitely make peace with Japan after taking Tokyo. If it seems we can't take it, just make peace with them now, and get something out of them.

After that, we need to catch up on the tech tree - we need to build Universities and Observatories everywhere. Free Market will help with the cash.

We could rush towards the Assembly Line and Infantry, I suppose, or play it safe and go for Constitution, Democracy and Liberalism, switch to a more progressive form of government first.

We don't have that many towns but then again, it's a water map, so nobody does. Still, Universal Suffrage may not be that appealing for us.

Going for Sci Method -> Physics and Biology may be beneficial but once again, we don't have enough farms to justify a mad rush.

Assembly Line will help by giving us Lumbermills, but we don't have that many forests.

In short, I didn't really have any objectives for research, so tactical thinking - what's the most useful thing short-term? - took over.

I'm pretty sure that universities are currently being built in a lot of places. This should help us out a lot.

I'm not really sure which way to go tech-wise. I'm thinking just military techs. That's really the only thing we have the upperhand on. Let's build up our army again and take Alex's home continent. I find that one particularly appealing because he only has 3 cities, should be an easy target, and a lot of hills on his island. Of course maybe the "take out the weak target" plan is not the way to go. Cyrus is really strong and maybe we should take him out, and then Peter.

Either way I see a war coming from an AI in the near future. Not a lot of people are happy with us and we were being threatened a lot, not including Kublai. Remaining friendly with him is vital. We need to build up our military a lot though. We have only around 8 units that are stationed in former Japan.

And Maksim, you are up, again :)
 
Good job on getting that defensive pact going, Knupp!

It does mean that we are forced to wait for the others to attack us, if we want it to be upheld.

If we are building buildings :) then we should be in Organized Religion. If units, it's Theocracy time.

How far away is Cyrus, tech-wise? Can we peacefully out-tech him when Universities and Observatories come online, I wonder?

I'm tempted to grab the English city that sits in the middle of our empire as well.

There will be an official "got it" tonight when I get back home.
 
The annals of history will record the Spanish Theocracy as but a brief note. In the few years it existed, not a single Inquisitor came to the fore and provided fertile ground for the imagination of English comics.

However, the people of Spain will remember that time as a time of peace. Faced with no enemies to fight, the Theocrats directed their efforts at the construction of universities and observatories, naturally dropping into Organized Religion in the year 1804.

The conquered cities of Japan were slowly assimilated into the glorious Spanish culture, often at the cost of lives (rushing a theatre in Edo to gain some culture, and a library in Tokyo somewhat later).

The year 1804 was also disturbing on the diplomatic front, as Taj Mahal has been built in a distant land. Had its invigorating powers fallen into the clutches of powerful Persia? No, thankfully, it was Alexander of Greeks, a small and insignificant civilization who entered a Golden Age. The Spanish diplomats politely congratulated the Greeks, while trying to stifle giggles.

In the year 1808, the Printing Press was discovered, and the army of newspaper boys who has previously spent their entire lives hand-copying the newspapers, found themselves out of jobs. The benevolent monarch sent them to universities and observatories soon to be built in the lands, and the multitudes rejoiced.

The nation’s scientists argued amongst themselves on what to research next – some firebrand even suggested a new and bold discovery of scientific method, whereby things and thoughts are judged on their merits and usefulness rather than ancient scriptures or philosophers’ musings.

Needless to say, he was not heard from again. The rest of the scientists tried to look busy, and set out to research Replaceable Parts.

In the span of two short years, Czar Peter of Russia arrived into Madrid to marvel at the printing presses, and brokered a deal whereby a cargo of such would be sent to his Motherland, where they would be used to print many copies of “Nationalism: Inspiring People In A Modern Age”, which in turn would be sent to Spain. Some money exchanged hands as well, and a diplomatic incident narrowly avoided when a band of musicians started singing “Ra-ra-rasputin!” within the Czar’s earshot.

Two more years passed, and our great ally Kublai Khan, from his throne room in Xanadu requested the same knowledge, offering in turn the secrets of gunpowder and some spare change he found lying behind the sofa.

In the year 1820, the reigning monarch traveled to the newly built city of Salamanca, located south of Cordoba. While there, he fell ill and died suddenly.

He never saw the invention of Replaceable Parts, nor the beginnings of a Forbidden Palace at Osaka (good place -> suggest building it after Uni in 4 turns).

There are some who whisper that the monarch’s death was not accidental – they say he confided to an advisor his thoughts of a better world – a world where Spain would create a Constitution, discover Liberalism and Democracy, and maybe, just maybe, build the Statue Of Liberty (quite why he was so obsessed with a giant statue of a woman, nobody knew) with the help of a Great Engineer sure to be born in the city of Barcelona in the years to come.

Alas, he was childless, and his dreams died with him.
 

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The rumors that the monarch had confided in a close advisor (named Knupp) were very true. The events that followed though became a lesson to be tought to future leaders of the Spanish empire. Never trust your close advisors.

Knupp had slipped the venom of a poisinous fish found off the coast of Salamanca into the monarch's drink while dining in the newly erected government building during a meeting. Knupp knew that he would be elected the new monarch of Spain by his peers if the monarch died because he was the monarch's closest advisory. He had a plan that he would use his dead bosses' dream of a better world, one with democracy and a statue that would commemorate liberty, to become known as one of the greatest leaders of the Spanish state.

A few days after the funeral of the previous monarch, the advisor Knupp was expectedly voted leader and he went straight to work. He visited Toledo where the lazy citizens there took forever to construct local buildings. He was so angry at the production poor citizens there that he took out a whip and started beating his own people to hurry up production until a university was built there. Many people died during this month long whipping fest but Knupp assured his people that it was for the betterment of the Spanish empire.

A year later Cyrus, the leader of the Persians, came to visit Knupp. Cyrus told Knupp that he wanted to sign an open border agreement with Spain. Knupp wasn't so hot about the idea and asked to renegotiate the deal, but then Cyrus would no longer accept open borders, stating "we will never trade with you, our worst enemies". Well Knupp wasn't too happy that Cyrus had wasted his time. Coincidentally, a Persian merchant was found dead on the shores of Madrid not too far from the king's palace.

Eventually, the secrets of replaceable parts were discovered by the brilliant Spanish researchers. Knupp had things in mind for the technology path. Research rifling, build a large army, and drop it off on Cyrus's mainland. The Spanish had caught up on most techs and Knupp knew that Persia had nothing to combat a rifle. Of course his dreams of being known as the best emperor overpowered his will to kill Cyrus, and he followed his previous monarch's dream, starting research on constitution. After that democracy, then we could rush the Statue of Liberty in Madrid with a great engineer that was already there and another that would be born in Barcelona in the coming years.

Knupp also made sure that the construction of a grand palace that would be forbidden to all except for government officials be started in Osaka. He was sure that he would be known as one of the greatest Spanish leaders now.

The year was now 1930 and a scandal was about to arise. Most Spanish people had forgotten about the murder of their previous emperor. However, Persian diplomats had not. They hired investigators to look into the story and those investigators had been looking for ten long years.

Finally they found a Spanish advisor to Knupp, who was willing to share some evidence he had lost sleep over since the murder of his previous boss. He told Persian investigators that Knupp had gone fishing the day before the murder and that he had seen him get off the boat with a vile of a curious green colored liquid contained in it. The next day he saw Knupp pouring this vile into the King's drink, but was too afraid to say anything in fear that he would become Knupp's next target.

When Cyrus discovered the news he immediately made sure that Spanish citizens found out and indeed they did. All hell broke lose as riots, assasination attempts, and news of the scandal was passed throughout Spain and the world. Knupp was exiled to Salamanca with a few loyal soldiers protecting him in an old castle.

Meanwhile back at Madrid, nobody knew who was going to succeed the throne. When rumors of an old palace concubine who had a 22 year old son with the murdered monarch of long ago spread through the town government officials went to seek her out. The monarch had payed her off to make sure that nobody would know of such a scandal. He was named succesor and he would now have control over his father's dream, a father who he had never met. And Knupp waited patiently in the old castle waiting for a chance to regain power once again....
 
Ah, the historians of tomorrow would argue endlessly over the meteoritic rise of Spain in the nineteenth century. Some would call it a golden age, others would point out that such a term is already reserved.

Nonetheless, it was a great time to be alive. For a brief two years the succession dispute raged on, while the learned people debated over the merits of a new approach to government, one based not on heredity but rather on representing a group of the people of Spain.

Thus, in the year 1832 the Grand Constitution of Spain was signed by the representatives of all the great cities, and attended by the leaders of smaller towns, villages, and the occasional hamlet.

The newly elected Prime Minister, a distinguished noble and politican, pursued a friendly foreign policy. Although his decision to sell the secret of gunpowder to Alexander for mere money was perhaps ill-advised, he used that money, as well as knowledge of replaceable parts, to help with acquiring the secrets of corporations from Peter of the Russians.

Two years later, Peter offered a trade agreement whereby Russian and Spanish corporations would trade copper and iron resources, thus enriching both countries. This was eagerly accepted by the Prime Minister, who found the journals of the late monarch, and was quite enamored with the idea of building a bronze statue of a gigantic woman.

The year 1840 was a disturbing one, as long-time ally Kublai Khan declared the defensive pact shared with Spain null and void. Fortunately, no wars were declared, and the masses breathed easily.

The year 1846 saw the beginnings of true Democracy in Spain, and two years later Barcelona produced one of the finest minds of this generation, none other than Karl Friedrich Gauss, a mathematical prodigy from an early age. Bucking the traditions of Barcelona guilds, young Karl was not an engineer, but a scientist! He was not welcome there, so he packed his things, boarded a galleon courteously provided by the government, and is now traveling south via Santiago, most likely to Cordoba, where he may build an Academy.

Meanwhile, Osaka’s citizens finished the Forgotten Realms… err… Forbidden Palace, a tribute to the years past. The new government opened it as a tourist attraction, as well as holding some of its meetings there. The citizens of Osaka demanded more, and as it was such a highly productive city, were chosen to build the Statue of Liberty, so that the whole world would see the greatness of the Spanish nation. Leonardo Da Vinci was sent from Madrid to head this project and is awaiting his Galleon on the outskirts of the capital, accompanied by a cadre of elite conquistadores.

Although it is true that Persia is regarded as most powerful nation in the world, the ones most technologically advanced are English, who have discovered Scientific Method, Chemistry and other technologies. Perhaps it is them who present a better target for the pent-up aggression of the Spanish nation?

Or perhaps we have entered a new and enlightened age, where peace reigns, and no blood needs to be shed any more?

Only time will tell.
 
Before I play I'd like to ask what our strategy and plan is. Not really sure which way to go with this. I might build up our military but who knows. What do you think Maksim?
 
Well, it's a coin toss, isn't it?

On one hand, we could probably tech our way to space. On another, we could gather an army, and go beat someone up.

Possible candidates:

Cyrus - well, he's number one in score, but he's not the tech king, and he's quite far away. I was hoping that we could sic Kublai on him, and let them duke it out.

Alex - potential victim. Despite his GA and me selling him Gunpowder (I could not resist the temptation of 260 G :)), he's trailing in score. On the other hand, it feels like stealing candy from a baby.

Lizzy - well now. She's the tech queen, has a city in the middle of our lands, attacked us previously, and defends her cities with longbows. I'm all for taking her down a notch - once we have Infantry, perhaps? We could take a city or two, sue for peace and get some techs out of her.

BTW, you only played 5 turns (1820-1830), so if you want to play 15 to 1880, feel free to do so.
 
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