RBCiv Conquests SG Discussion Thread

[Arathorn]

Oh, heck. Sign me up for something reasonably challenging. Cordova on demi-god or deity (how fast can we race through enemy civs?), Sid/deity for Turks/Abassids/Byzantium.

I'd rather not lead but will be willing to lead a team, if that works out best for the poor organizer (Charis) who has to wade through so many sign-ups.

Arathorn

 

[Speaker]

Somehow I missed that new games were starting. Sign me up for T-Hawks' Sid team.

 

[T-hawk]

OK, I took a serious look at picking a civ for the Sid game. I'm looking in the editor, not in the game (can run the former at work unobtrusively but not really the latter ).

Maybe I'm missing something, but the Byzantines really do seem strong. They get a lot of cities and resources to start, in mostly decent terrain, and centralized enough to not get killed by corruption. They won't get killed immediately by neighbors, either. The Bulgars are their only significant neighbor; there's lots of empty space to the east and the Abbasids to the south far enough away that they won't threaten the core for some time.. The Cataphract isn't that great a unit, but on Sid, more important are catapults.

The Abbasids are another possibility, but I think they would work out a lot like the Celts did in Fall of Rome - too far away to get credibly threatened by anybody and can just win at their own pace. So, I'd like to pick Byzantium for the Sid game. If we do get piled on, bring it on, and I think Arathorn would love it. I haven't played with him in quite some time - would you be up for this, Arathorn? If you're not tired of Byzance from Rome Everlasting?

I'd also like a second slot on a lesser difficulty game, whatever's available and wants a player.

 

[Justus II]

T-Hawk, a couple comments on Byzantines, I had started a solo game as them on Demigod a while back, and was going quite well, but ran out of RL time and never finished. Some observations:
It's best to go min research on the first tech, but if you actively seek out contacts (use the Dromons) you can quickly become a broker, buying the 'normal' techs and selling them around. Your Byz techs can eventually be traded to the Kievan and Maygars.
Bulgars can be taken out early, even with swords, and should be, as they have needed resources. (Not as easy at Sid, I'm sure).
You will eventually face barbarian Keshiks in the east, so prepare defenses, probably before you get Cataphracts (at least for me).
Cataphracts are basically Knights, but you get them an era and a half before everyone else, so you have a good window of opportunity.
Catapults aren't available until second era, IIRC.
Curraghs do NOT upgrade to Dromons, so don't build a bunch and then connect your tar (um, er, so I heard... )

Anyway, I would love to play the Byzantines again, although I haven't had any Sid experience, if you have room for someone with a learner's permit, I'd be interested.

 

[Charis]

Thank you all for continued responses... I think we just have one RBC12 Barbarian game to go before we start this. You guys are sick... the first team that fills up is the Sid one! (T-Hawk, Charis, Arathorn, Speaker, and Justus EDIT - Jabah had asked for this as well)

I think we're up to *30* slots requested for signups (that includes a few who asked for a hard one and something less brutal) That will cover almost nine teams, and I think once I organize the exact civ/difficulty combo's we'll get several more signups. I'm not sure we'll quite cover all 13, but I think we'll come close. (I'm in famine mode on active SG games so I'll be in a few on different flavors/civs)

Keep 'em coming, and cheer the Franks on to victory!
Charis

 

[Arathorn]

Sounds good, T-hawk. It's been a while. And I'll play the Byzantines again. Just let me at those Ostrogoths...

Quite the team going there. Should be fun.

Arathorn

 

[Charis]

Ok, I've gone over all sign-ups, succestions from players and beta testers, and here
is what I would like to put on the table (it's not final, and has some open issues,
but it's a starting point). I was going to wait a bit more, but I think having specific
games and hosts in mind will encourage more sign-ups.

First, tentative game list, in order of category of difficulty

Brutal
Sid Byzantines (need I say more?)
DG Kievan Rus with goal of Conquest ( )
Dty Turks with primary goal of Domination (another eek! )
DG Cordova (a real bear to prevent others from VP win)

Challening
Dty Danes (will need to invade the mainland with skill)
Dty Franks or Germans (can you get to Jerusalem? not easy!)
DG Norwegians (tough starting position, but you have zerks)

Tough
DG Abassid (will someone defend Jerusalem?!)
Mon Burgundy (no horses, iron, sandwiched between powers)

Fun
Mon Germans or Franks
Emp Fatimids
Emp English
DG Swedes

Even more tentative than the game lists are the rosters. First person is host,
although the host may or may not lead off.

Sid Byz
T-Hawk, Arathorn, Speaker, Charis, Jabah or Justus
Dty Danes
Doc, Aggie, Skyfish
Dty Turks
Aggie, T-Hawk, Caesar
DG Rus
Charis, Jabah,Grimjack,Akots
DG Cordova
Arathorn, Charis, Corrado, Justus
Dty Franks
Ridgelake,...,Charis,Kabuki
DG Norway -- RED!
T_McC, Bede, Ville, 6thGenTexan
DG Abassid
Rubberjello, Yom, Sir Bugsy
Mon Burgundy
Gobi Bear, DeceasedHorse
Mon Germans
Sir Bugsy, Balastulin
Emp Fatimids
OPEN (Doc start off)
Emp English
OPEN (Corrado start off)
DG Swedes **
OPEN (Charis start off, Barbslinger has shown interest here)

Comments/issues/questions
- Sir Bugsy, I needed someone who has SG experience to run a lower lvl game and thought you would make a good choice. Feel free to signup for a DG or Emp game if you wanted more pain (Done)
- The Sid game may be oversubscribed (!?) I have Jabah down for his other request of Rus (and a brutal conquest goal), and Justus as an option on the tough Cordova game. T-Hawk and those two will need to work out roster. (Fixed - Justus goes to Cordova)
- I'm thinking of running one Christian, one Muslim, and one Viking game as OPEN SG's - that is, no sign-ups, anyone strong enough to play on that difficulty can hop in with a "got it" post. That lets us have ALL civs going, but increases the subscribed numbers for the other games
- Ridgelake or any other listed for Deity Frank/German above - or Sir Bugsy, any preferences on Franks or Germany? (Ridge Franks, Bugsy Germans)
- Arathorn, I hope I didn't put you in too much, but I really woulf love to see you in both Sid and Cordova games!

Check-in questions - A few folks commented in this thread but didn't explicitly ask for a game, plus a few others in rbc12. Any interest in this game from:
Skyfish, Coffee, Kylearan, Jack Merchant, LKEndter, Elvis1985, Mitsho ??

Let me know of any errors, missed sign-ups, or required changes - thanks!

Feedback is welcome!
Charis

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Charis,
I'd be happy to run a Monarch game. Thanks for choosing me. I think I would also like one of the more challenging games too. If you could slot me into one of the DG games that would be very cool.

Thanks

 

[barbslinger]

Perhaps the demigod swedes. I have beaten diety 2 of 10 times attempted seriously. Abandoned dozens. I feel comfortable at being able to knock off emporer and I'm in the middle of a demi-god that I'm pretty sure of winning.

 

[Dwip]

Wish I could play, but since I'm going to be leaving for England in 3 weeks, with questionable 'net access for like 3 months, I think it's best if I don't leave some team stuck in the middle of something.

I'll prolly jump in on one of the open games, though.

 

[6thGenTexan]

Throw me in anywhere other than the Franks.

 

[Ridgelake]

I just did an eeny-meeny-miny-moe on Franks vs Germans and came up with the Franks. I have no idea what either of them has in store. So unless the others on the team feel strongly about playing the Germans, we will run with the Franks.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

In that case I'll make my SG the Germans.

 

[akots]

It would be fun to play Deity Franks or Germans. But I would also like to play DG Russia. First, I'm Russian. Second, I like the units very much but hate sailing in Civ and RL as well because get sea sick very easily even before boarding. Well, Russia is an excellent opportunity for this. The only thing that is weird about Russia are the city names. Don't know where they got them but most of them are very strange and do not belong to Rus. Is it possible to change them through the editor? Probably Doc can deal with these issues.

 

[Justus II]

Jabah specifically requested Sid, so I'll be happy to go with the Cordova game instead, sounds like a real challenge of it's own.
(Do we get Ricardo Mountleban as a Great Leader? Sorry, old Chrysler commercial).

I'll probably also join a second game, but I'll wait to see how things fall out.

Edit: I was also interested in the Rus, but conquest?!? That WILL be brutal. I'll probably pick something a little less intense for a second game.

 

[Charis]

Akots, I had thought about (but then forgot) to mention that anyone of a European/Middle East civ should feel free to play 'for their homeland', so I'ld happy to happy to have you in the Rus game. We won't be using the editor simply for the reason that mods don't show up in the Hall of Fame. By all means though, supply a list of city names and/or rename them as appropriate.

Bugsy, barbslinger, 6thGen, Justus... noted and will edit in.


Charis (and yes, I remember the Cordova commercial!)

 

[Kabuki]

For my second game (if allowed), Sweden would be really nice. If I'm allowed a third I would love to join the Abbasids game.

 

[Caesar_Augustus]

Diety Turks eh? Sounds fun. I've played this scenario a couple of times as the Byz, and the Turks always get nice and big, and start running roughshod over the Abbasids with their Sipahi.

 

[Rubberjello]

Sounds great! The Open games are a good idea, (and may well finish before many of the others! For a second choice, (double dipping) I would like to join the Monarch Burgundians, if there is room.

 

[Aggie]

I'm very happy with the games and the line-up of those games. It's been long since I was in a team with Skyfish for instance