Re-Upload Requests

Lately I've been hunting down some of Rob's beautiful leaderheads that have been lost to the sands of time.
Specifically I need Zenobia of Palmyra, but I would also really appreciate any others that people have that aren't in the download database, like the leaderheads in his ancient era leaderhead ten pack (the page for which is still here, but the .ace file is corrupt and I've been unable to open it).
 
Lately I've been hunting down some of Rob's beautiful leaderheads that have been lost to the sands of time.
Specifically I need Zenobia of Palmyra, but I would also really appreciate any others that people have that aren't in the download database, like the leaderheads in his ancient era leaderhead ten pack (the page for which is still here, but the .ace file is corrupt and I've been unable to open it).
Indeed, I do fear that it has been lost amidst the, "Lone and level sands."

Of greater import (and in case no one has beaten me to it) - Welcome to CFC! :dance:

-:Dz
 
Lately I've been hunting down some of Rob's beautiful leaderheads that have been lost to the sands of time.
Specifically I need Zenobia of Palmyra, but I would also really appreciate any others that people have that aren't in the download database, like the leaderheads in his ancient era leaderhead ten pack (the page for which is still here, but the .ace file is corrupt and I've been unable to open it).
Hi, 2d6 Kobolds, and welcome to our corner of the Internet!
I just downloaded the ace-file, and it looks to be working on my computer. I used ZipGenius to unpack it. Attached is Zenobia's files re-compressed as a .zip file. You probably work out which folders the various files should be in - I didn't rebuild the folder-structure in the zip. Hope this helps.
Regards, Sigurd
 

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Maybe we need a better database. Not only are there a lot of things in old hard drives or backups of hard drives (I still keep some stuff from a Windows 98 computer, for example), but also because a lot of scenarios and modpacks include them but are not necessarily known to.
 
Hi, 2d6 Kobolds, and welcome to our corner of the Internet!
I just downloaded the ace-file, and it looks to be working on my computer. I used ZipGenius to unpack it. Attached is Zenobia's files re-compressed as a .zip file. You probably work out which folders the various files should be in - I didn't rebuild the folder-structure in the zip. Hope this helps.
Regards, Sigurd

Great job! Where did you find Zenobia, by the way? I did some searching, but haven't been able to find the relevant thread/downloads database entry. De-ace-ifying the downloads is one of my goals, and it would be great to replace the existing .ace link with a .zip link - just have to know where it is!

Maybe we need a better database. Not only are there a lot of things in old hard drives or backups of hard drives (I still keep some stuff from a Windows 98 computer, for example), but also because a lot of scenarios and modpacks include them but are not necessarily known to.

"Improving the database" could be an umbrella term for what Blake00 and I hope to achieve. The path to getting there, and what that end destination means, is still being figured out. As you say, some of the missing leaderheads/graphics can be found in scenarios/modpacks. But how can they be identified in an efficient fashion? Maybe someone just happens to know it was used in a particular mod, but where that doesn't happen, it could be quite challenging. Maybe the credits of the scenario/mod can be used to link them up, but the person looking for the graphics likely doesn't know that scenario/mod uses those graphics. Maybe that old Windows 98 computer can be searched for "zenobia" and find that leaderhead, but especially for units the files might have been renamed to fit a scenario. (Also, if there's anything rare on that old computer, it should probably be backed up while things still work!)

Civ3 in particular (and to a lesser extent Civ4) also has the pre-and-post-Downloads-Database split. So if you want to check if e.g. a leaderhead exists, you have to search two places. Although the threads are more likely to have it since more items have a thread but not a Downloads Database entry than vice versa. After 2016, it was possible to link these with XenForo tools, but not many resources are thus linked at this point in time.

It's also a different skill set than what has traditionally been in demand - more librarian than designer or artist - and thus one that hasn't been in high demand when new creations were much more common. And it requires support from both moderators (to update the "card catalog") and regular members (who have "the books" checked out locally, and might not know that the library doesn't have a copy anymore).

So welcome aboard! If you want to help cataloging, I have a thread for that. But potentially the single most important thing I could ask would be backing up that old Windows 98 computer's Civ files, and ideally getting them somewhere online from which items that are missing can be restored. It's of the age where there's a decent chance it has something that is otherwise lost.
 
Great job! Where did you find Zenobia, by the way? I did some searching, but haven't been able to find the relevant thread/downloads database entry. De-ace-ifying the downloads is one of my goals, and it would be great to replace the existing .ace link with a .zip link - just have to know where it is!
Found it in this thread (I don't think the file is in the database, though). Just did a text search for "Ancient era leaderhead pack" or something along those lines, so it means the search function is working well after the recent migration.:)

EDIT: By the way, You mentioned de-ace-ifying downloads. Is there maybe a thread for this purpose?
 
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Civ3 in particular (and to a lesser extent Civ4) also has the pre-and-post-Downloads-Database split. So if you want to check if e.g. a leaderhead exists, you have to search two places. Although the threads are more likely to have it since more items have a thread but not a Downloads Database entry than vice versa. After 2016, it was possible to link these with XenForo tools, but not many resources are thus linked at this point in time.
I've wanted to upload old downloads to the Database for a while similar to how @Ozymandias has archived retired modders' work, but I've held off because I thought there was an option back in the vBulletin days to designate authors separate from the uploader so they could make changes to the file.

EDIT: By the way, You mentioned de-ace-ifying downloads. Is there maybe a thread for this purpose?
PeaZip is a multi-format archive tool that can read .ace files, and unlike WinRAR it doesn't hound you for a subscription. :p
(.ace is so obscure that hardly any modern software recognizes it; even 7-Zip can't read it.)
 
PeaZip is a multi-format archive tool that can read .ace files, and unlike WinRAR it doesn't hound you for a subscription. :p
(.ace is so obscure that hardly any modern software recognizes it; even 7-Zip can't read it.)
Yep. I usually use Peazip, but the support for .ace files is not built in by default. You need a separate plug-in for that, and the particular plug-in has critical security issues, and hasn't been maintained since 2006 (i think it was). ZipGenius unpacks .ace files by default, and it is not as outdated as the ace-plugin for Peazip. I use ZipGenius for .ace, and Peazip for the rest...

What I meant was if there is a thread to keep track of files that needs to be converted from .ace to .zip. Sorry if I was vague...
 
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Found it in this thread (I don't think the file is in the database, though). Just did a text search for "Ancient era leaderhead pack" or something along those lines, so it means the search function is working well after the recent migration.:)

EDIT: By the way, You mentioned de-ace-ifying downloads. Is there maybe a thread for this purpose?
The current ACE file thread is https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/how-can-i-decompress-ace-files-in-the-21st-century.675993/ . I see you posted there and mentioned ZipGenius in an edit to post #9. It couldn't hurt to confirm that it works! I recently posted a list of units to convert at the end of that thread, but I am sure there are other graphics, like those leaderheads, that I am not aware of yet.

And thanks for the thread link! I hadn't realized it was part of a pack, all the results with Zenobia indicated it was probably one of Rob's units, but that's why I couldn't find its thread.
I've wanted to upload old downloads to the Database for a while similar to how @Ozymandias has archived retired modders' work, but I've held off because I thought there was an option back in the vBulletin days to designate authors separate from the uploader so they could make changes to the file.


PeaZip is a multi-format archive tool that can read .ace files, and unlike WinRAR it doesn't hound you for a subscription. :p
(.ace is so obscure that hardly any modern software recognizes it; even 7-Zip can't read it.)
There was. Unfortunately, XenForo doesn't have that feature. But what I didn't know until recently is that moderators can re-assign a resource. Which could work quite well in this case - e.g. you could re-upload old downloads, link them to the correct thread so the Downloads Database and the original thread are linked, and then message myself or Blake00 to reassign it to the proper author for credit. It's a bit neater than the traditional "I uploaded this unit but XYZ created it" in the description, since it means that it's easy to find other works by the same author, and also means that if the original creator ever makes an update, they can update it themselves.
 
I've wanted to upload old downloads to the Database for a while similar to how @Ozymandias has archived retired modders' work, but I've held off because I thought there was an option back in the vBulletin days to designate authors separate from the uploader so they could make changes to the file.
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At first, I only re-upped the works of those who were no longer around at CFC, and given the creators' full credit. Of late, I've only posted 2 Units made by @Delta_Strife, with his permission.
 
Could we get a reupload of this?
 
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