Realistic And Easy Wwiii 2017-2023

[sir_schwick]

It was probably sarcasm, although 4 is almost a certainty.

 

[jellysd]

i jsut played and like everyone self destructed lol was over in 5 turns

 

[davidwchislett]

I like your scenario Communisto, you've clearly given it a lot of thought and it was most enoyable to play. We have to remember that there are different interpretations of history and of the future and I found yours most enojoyable.

Most of the points I would have made have already been stated; so I won't repeat them. However, I would like to point out that the idea of the British entering into civil war over imperialism is remote. Firstly, most people here don't know what it means. If you tell them that Britain once ruled nearly a third of the world they would laugh at you. Also, the idea of being British is allien to many Britons, who instead think of themselves as being Welsh, Scotish, English and even Cornish. The people of Britain by and large dislike wars; though when we view our sovereignty or sacred rights being violated we are not affraid to fight. But to fight each other over a political concept that few understand and frankly less even care about is highly unlikely. What was so remarkable about the first and only civil war over 400 years ago was that it took place at all, and within 11 years of its end everything reverted to how it had been before the conflict anyway.

The average Briton hates making a fuss or stepping out of line from the social norm in a society, that while "L"iberal in political outlook, is highly "c"onservative in terms of social behaviour and conformity. A war between Britons, let alone Englishmen, is most unlikely, especially over this issue, for if nothing else, it is not in our nature. Also highly unlikely, but less so, is a conflict between the different constituent nations of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

(NB: The majority of the Northern Irish would prefer to stay part of the UK, dispite the fact that the UK government and the vast majority of the populace would be more than happy to see the 12 northern counties join the Irish Republic.)

 

[Communisto]

(NB: The majority of the Northern Irish would prefer to stay part of the UK, dispite the fact that the UK government and the vast majority of the populace would be more than happy to see the 12 northern counties join the Irish Republic.)

you make good points except for this one. Yes, i did put some fantasy into this scenario such as the civil war but i would just like to explain one thing; There are a catholic counties in Ulster such as Armagh, where my family comes from. The thing is that maybe a protestant majority in say, belfast, would want to stay part of britain but a huge catholic majority in say, eighteen small/poor towns in Armagh, Fermanagh, Tryone and down might want to join the republic. the problem is that the British government piles all the N. Irish counties into one Ulster and this is a mistake. Also, there are only 6 counties under british control.


EDIT: keep in mind that i made this scenario a looooooooong time ago and does not reflect my current abilities at modification

 

[sir_schwick]

Whenever they put these issues on referendum in N Ireland, an overwhelming majority want to stay in the UK. Because of the nature of secret ballots, it is difficult to tell whether or not this reflects religious preferance. However personal anecdotes from Catholics I know who live/lived in N Ireland tell me this:

"Even in N Ireland, most Catholics are weary of Gerry Adams, Sinn Fein, the IRA, and the whole movement. Most of what is now called the IRA is nothing more than street thugs who compete with protestant thugs claiming to be Paras over drug and crime territory."

Not to say the protestants are blameless, but in my opinion all of them are *******s.

 

[Luthor_Saxburg]

My comments on the scenario:

- It isn't realistic in my opinion (but I don't really care about that)
- It's a fun scenario from a political point of view (a lot of confusing wars going on)
- I think it's too short => it should have more turns
- Europe is too strong (starts with good resources, a lot of VP's and a good army)
- China is too weak (at war with a lot of countries, no rubber, high deficit, only 1 MA)

I had fun trying it.

 

[davidwchislett]

Sorry, yes: there are indeed only 6 counties in Northern Ireland under British control, and it is also true that there are enclaves in Northern Ireland who voice a wish to join with the Republic.

But, lets not go beating about the bush here, a majority, whether Catholic or Protestant, have made clear in democratic referendums, that they wish to remain part of the Union.

Like the Falklands and Gibralter, Northern Ireland is another one of those imperial left-overs which the British public care little about and the British government find a thorn in their diplomacy.

 

[Nailo]

This is a fun and challenging scenario. I am on turn 10 and 5 civs have all ready died. Mostly on my part trying to get oil and rubber. One question, It might have already been asked but, why doesnt the Europeans have a harbor connecting London to the rest of the continent?

 

[Dutch Leader1]

Dear Communisto,

Do you have 1 or 2 screenshots?
(before I download the scenario)

Greetings, Roland

 

[primeminister99]

Primeminister99, 80% of Iraq is now completely stable. You must be just watching the news and don't go on the internet to see how it is doing. Another thing is that there weren't a lot of civilian casualties. You must be refering to the ludicrously outrageous stat posted by a socialist university (100,000 killed). The actual number is around 10,000-15,000, which is quite low considering the length of the war and the amount of people in Iraq. Thirdly, the quality of life for the Iraqis is pretty god damn good for being in a war.


PS: Isn't it great how a scenario like this can cause a great debate?

Yup.

Anyhow good old me signing in every few months, I ought to keep a better lid on these things.

Anyways, yes the Kuridsh areas are pretty much stable -- assuming they don't declare independence and the Turks don't then get annoyed with such a thing. The Shiite areas are relativley stable, but with another Muqtada Al-Sadr, or if he starts fooling around who knows what will happen -- and will Iran continue to stay out of there? One can't be sure. As for the number of people killed who knows how many it is -- it's probably somewhere between 100,000+ and 15,000. One must remember all the collatoral damage, then again one should be *pardon the pun* conservative in ones estimates. Besides what "socialist University" are you talking about? I wasn't aware that Universities have official political ideologies. There where defenetly a lot of civilian casulaties in the Sunni Triangle. That place is bloody insane, there are bombings everyday. As for their quality of life, I can assure you most people ,myself included, wouldn't want to live in Baghdad, Tikrit or many of those other areas in the Sunni Triange. It's probably not as bad as many warzones in Africa, or other places, where but it defenetly isn't pleasant. Besides when you're dead, you're dead.

 

[SuperFedya]

Hehe
Russia don't have air and naval force And resources how uranium and coal

And Vladivostok VERY strong city, naval army too, very strong, because this point strategic.

 

[Plexus]

This scenario is beyond implausible, I'm sorry.

 

[mac224]

6 views and no reply yet? come on guys tell me what you like/dont get/ dont like

Why no download? I didn't care for your political rant and your background makes no sense.

 

[Savage Discipil]

I downloaded this game and it stunk, thanks alot Canadian

 

[Despair888]

Haha. I just read this and was thinking about downloading it, then I saw the U.S.A lost in Iraq, it's completely unrealistic, and the reason the U.S.A lost was because the maker is Canadian.

Im not downloading.

 

[ANDL33]

Oh, and btw. Isn't the victory type supposed to be Coallition instead of Individual? Or was there something I missed out in the story that you gave?

 

[ANDL33]

Oh, and Despair? Communisto already said it was half realistic and half fantasy. So calm down, and why you hating on Canadians?

 

[Corvex]

Haha. I just read this and was thinking about downloading it, then I saw the U.S.A lost in Iraq, it's completely unrealistic, and the reason the U.S.A lost was because the maker is Canadian.

Im not downloading.

Fine. If you're not even downloading, why in god's name do you bother posting on the thread to tell everyone?

 

[I am the Future]

It is funny when i was looking at city placement all i could think was "He must be Canadian" turns out i was right. why the hell do you have madison instead of chicago and why is LA in the middle of the the west coast? I understand that scenarios like this are bound to be bad but city placement normaly isnt the problem

Plus i allwas thought of WW3 being sparked in Africa due to a country in a civil war getting Nukes but at least you dont have it in europe

 

[Despair888]

So right, and we lost on Iraq.