Realpolitik CIV - An Interactive AAR

[W|M]

The population has already grown a bit, so we dont need to finish the barracks - A galley to France will make London grow as well.

 

[arya126]

hey totally off topic here but can anyone tell me how to reduce unhappiness in cities? i just played 3 successive games and by the time i get to 2000 BC, i have citizens refusing to work. they say it is too crowded. is there a way to fix this?

yes it sounds like a newb question but i havent played CIV in months until recently. ive forgotten some of the fine tunings.

 

[Conqueror500]

hey totally off topic here but can anyone tell me how to reduce unhappiness in cities? i just played 3 successive games and by the time i get to 2000 BC, i have citizens refusing to work. they say it is too crowded. is there a way to fix this?

yes it sounds like a newb question but i havent played CIV in months until recently. ive forgotten some of the fine tunings.

Don't let your capital go over 5 population and regular cities 4 (This is prince and monarch levels) until heredity rule using slavery to whip the population away unless you have lots of happiness resources - gems,silver,gold,wine,ivory religion,temples
and other things also increase happiness cap there are guides in the strategy article section.

 

[arya126]

thanks ill head over there to read up. but does this mean i have to keep my population low the entire game?

 

[Conqueror500]

thanks ill head over there to read up. but does this mean i have to keep my population low the entire game?

No once you get a lot of happiness resources religions/temples or the civics heredity rule and representation (Cant have both and representation only increases happy cap by 5 but heredity rule increases infinitely dependent on the number of units in the city)
you can let the population go as high as you can and should since it benefits you greatly. (don't go higher then the happy cap)

 

[mechaerik]

I still believe that we should build up a military to take out Augustus early. Such a move would leave our Southern border free from threat and secure an avenue to colonize the south.

Once we have a few techs, we may be able to bribe Ragnar into a war with another rival power. This will preoccupy the Viking Army. Then we can strike him, leaving ourselves free from threat near our homeland.

 

[Cull]

Thanks to Ravus_Sol for the answer! Agreed.

While Protective Archers are great, Archery is such a dead end tech. With Pottery/Writing/BW/etc, there for us, Archery, I say no.

Yes, let relationships develop. I still urge to be careful not to become them, and not to wage offensive wars!

 

[Cull]

I still believe that we should build up a military to take out Augustus early. Such a move would leave our Southern border free from threat and secure an avenue to colonize the south.

Once we have a few techs, we may be able to bribe Ragnar into a war with another rival power. This will preoccupy the Viking Army. Then we can strike him, leaving ourselves free from threat near our homeland.

Then what? Consider the cycle of evil war, leaving the world into a dark age. You want Britain's finest to die? Uneasy peace my friend.

 

[W|M]

Also, you know what happened what happened to Rome when it officially ceased to exist...(At least the Western Part): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_ages

 

[Cull]

West india man is totally right.

You want a dark age cause by our wars?

 

[MathNerd]

Then what? Consider the cycle of evil war, leaving the world into a dark age. You want Britain's finest to die? Uneasy peace my friend.

Well said Cull! Offensive war takes an unnecessary risk.

 

[W|M]

Also, heres another really bad effect of war, although this time specifically one war, and this is only one country that participated (and in a way that wasn't that major either) :

The war left Hungary devastated destroying over 60% of the economy and causing huge loss of life. Many Hungarians, including women and children, were brutally raped, murdered and executed or deported for slave labour by Czechslovaks, Russian Red Army troops, Yugoslavs (mostly Serbian partisans and regular units), and the Romanian so-called "Munteanu Guard" paramilitary units — by the end of the war approximately 500,000-650,000 people.

 

[Cull]

Well said Cull! Offensive war takes an unnecessary risk.

Honestly, its not the risk I'm worried about, its the lives of Englishmen, and the effects such a war could make, outside of the pure amount of death. It would destroy diplo in the world stage, slow down the discoveries of new technologies, and in general, make life worse, and throw a dark curtain around the world that is unlikely to be lifted for a long, long time.

 

[MathNerd]

Honestly, its not the risk I'm worried about, its the lives of Englishmen, and the effects such a war could make, outside of the pure amount of death. It would destroy diplo in the world stage, slow down the discoveries of new technologies, and in general, make life worse, and throw a dark curtain around the world that is unlikely to be lifted for a long, long time.

We sound like politicians when we say all this, particularly the "lives of Englishmen" part! However, it is very true. Why not at least devote the hammers to tech instead? After all, techs are the backbone of an empire.

 

[W|M]

And even a famous wartime leader once said:

I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears, and sweat

. That is what war offers, for very little compensation. (Note: I am actually a pacifist in RL).

 

[Lighthearter]

The general supremacy of pacifism in the opposition has been noted.

The Opposition Meter is being watched, gentlemen.

- Lighthearter

 

[W|M]

I've been checking it, it's been Moderate for ages

 

[Cull]

West india men, great quote!

We sound like politicians when we say all this, particularly the "lives of Englishmen" part! However, it is very true. Why not at least devote the hammers to tech instead? After all, techs are the backbone of an empire.

One point, we ARE politicians. And my post is totally real, and it is a cry to support the people of England. I agree that we should pour the citizens into infrastructure to improve science, and the like.

 

[mechaerik]

If you don't want to risk English lives, we must deal with the threat posed by Rome and the Norsemen. Both are very aggressive. We must fight today, so that our children will not have to fight tomorrow. If the Romans get Praetorians, no English force will be able to stand against them, and Rome cannot be trusted.

Also, since we are all more or less leftist, how about IngSoc (English Socialism) as our coalition name .

 

[Cull]

You want to send Englishmen into battle, knowing that some of them WILL die, or prevent war and death? Hmm.. Rome's Legions are not unstoppable. All we need are archers, and/or Shock/normal axes to fight them off. Remember, those on the defense get special bonuses.