Realpolitik of the Smoky Skies - The Reboot
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Melda
Wannabe Psephologist
((The double parentheses makes this appear to be out of character but the comment sounds decidedly in character. Can you please explain? I'm a bit confused.
))
Melda
Wannabe Psephologist
((zomg, holy overlapping votes, Batman!
I was happy enough to leave the Casual Vacancy vote until the timer expired, but it's getting legislatively busy in here so I'm calling the vote early since we have already achieved a result.))
The vote for the Casual Vacancy Act 1822 closes after half a day.
I think the ayes have it.
The bill passes in the affirmative. Unless the Grand Majah opposes it on constitutional grounds the bill passes into law.
The vote tally is below:
Ayes
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Noes
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Abstains
William Melda (PPP)|none|Albert Bazil (PIP)
Gustavus Gurra (PPP)||Edwin Zachariah (Ind)
Heerlo (PAU)||
Augustus (PIP)||
Ernest Barnard (PAU)||
I was happy enough to leave the Casual Vacancy vote until the timer expired, but it's getting legislatively busy in here so I'm calling the vote early since we have already achieved a result.))
The vote for the Casual Vacancy Act 1822 closes after half a day.
I think the ayes have it.
The bill passes in the affirmative. Unless the Grand Majah opposes it on constitutional grounds the bill passes into law.
The vote tally is below:
William Melda (PPP)|none|Albert Bazil (PIP)
Gustavus Gurra (PPP)||Edwin Zachariah (Ind)
Heerlo (PAU)||
Augustus (PIP)||
Ernest Barnard (PAU)||
Melda
Wannabe Psephologist
((I'm guessing that since we've skipped straight to a vote on the Orders Act 1822 that we have a tripartisan agreement to skip the debate, or by convention Orders don't get debated. Either way . . .))
I vote aye for the Orders Act 1822.
((Ha ha ha! You're all screwed!
))
Edit: Incidentally, the timer on the voting for the Orders Act 1822 is currently [timer=05/13/2015 00:56 AM UTC;Expired][/timer].
Second Edit: Also, it occurs to me that the Honourable Leader of the Opposition was going to be taking a command and therefore a leave of absence from senatorial duties (as per the constitution) as well. With the Honourable Prime Minister also taking a command and therefore a leave of absence from senatorial duties we will automatically have a senatorial pair and therefore not need to provide one (since both the Government and the Opposition will be both a man down, legislatively speaking). From my understanding of the constitution, you guys will be able to have whatever verbal input you want (presumably, in character, that will be done by proxy), but you won't be able to vote on anything until you return from active military duty. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong in my understanding. It shouldn't make too much difference, vote-wise, though, since both the Government and Opposition are both down a man.
I vote aye for the Orders Act 1822.
((Ha ha ha! You're all screwed!
))Edit: Incidentally, the timer on the voting for the Orders Act 1822 is currently [timer=05/13/2015 00:56 AM UTC;Expired][/timer].
Second Edit: Also, it occurs to me that the Honourable Leader of the Opposition was going to be taking a command and therefore a leave of absence from senatorial duties (as per the constitution) as well. With the Honourable Prime Minister also taking a command and therefore a leave of absence from senatorial duties we will automatically have a senatorial pair and therefore not need to provide one (since both the Government and the Opposition will be both a man down, legislatively speaking). From my understanding of the constitution, you guys will be able to have whatever verbal input you want (presumably, in character, that will be done by proxy), but you won't be able to vote on anything until you return from active military duty. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong in my understanding. It shouldn't make too much difference, vote-wise, though, since both the Government and Opposition are both down a man.
MiguelBazil
The "Always Late" One
((Heh, i missed the voting for a couple of minutes. I would've voted aye on the one that passed. I'd still need to review the whole orders part))
Melda
Wannabe Psephologist
((Yeah. Things move slowly around here for a while and then BAM! Lightning strike of action and activity.
I'm so excited the calendar's going to start ticking forward through the years. Big plans (roleplaying wise). /me rubs hands together.))
I'm so excited the calendar's going to start ticking forward through the years. Big plans (roleplaying wise). /me rubs hands together.))
Et_Absoluti
First Citizen
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It seems that no plans have been made to pursue any diplomatic ties with any of the major states near our borders. At the moment we are alone in this world and incredibly vulnerable to any foreign enemy.
I am not sure I agree with you on that point. We already have established diplomatic relations with all states that we know of in this world, and as you can see in the Orders Act 1822 the Department of Foreign Relations is working together with our diplomats throughout the world to open borders and further encourage trade between nations.
Our plans for the future are not yet final and so I cannot announce them to you, but I assure you that we are working to establish closer relations with our neighbors.
To cpm:
While we are on this matter I was actually just going to request more detailed information in regards of trade to be included in the next update. Basically, any info screen you can give us so that we know what trade agreements are possible. To be clear: not the current situation because orders have already been put forward to the Senate, but next time you update.
Our plans for the future are not yet final and so I cannot announce them to you, but I assure you that we are working to establish closer relations with our neighbors.
To cpm:
While we are on this matter I was actually just going to request more detailed information in regards of trade to be included in the next update. Basically, any info screen you can give us so that we know what trade agreements are possible. To be clear: not the current situation because orders have already been put forward to the Senate, but next time you update.
Sure, no problem.
Et_Absoluti
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((edited message))
Et_Absoluti
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Honorable Prime Minister, I am honored to serve with you in this campaign. To better serve the interests of Pulias and her people would you like to meet and discuss the details of the operation?
((If you like we can pm about deployments, tactics and leadership))
((If you like we can pm about deployments, tactics and leadership))
Heerlo
Jedi Master Hearlo
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Sure, we can do that. However, we have a potential problem. I believe we only have one unit stationed at Coventry, and we're both going to be officers. I don't know if one unit can have more than one commander. If not, I can let you take the position if you'd like.
Would appreciate the Majah's input here.
Edit: Also, I vote in favor of the orders.
Melda
Wannabe Psephologist
Yes, I thought you would, too.
Well, you've got [timer=05/13/2015 00:56 AM UTC;no time left][/timer]!
Et_Absoluti
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I doubt we will only need one unit to overcome the encampment. Perhaps we can bring down one of the veteran scouting units near Pulias.
MiguelBazil
The "Always Late" One
I vote aye on the Orders Act 1822.
Melda
Wannabe Psephologist
The vote for the Orders Act 1822 closes after two days.
I think the ayes have it.
The bill passes in the affirmative. Unless the Grand Majah opposes it on constitutional grounds the bill passes into law.
The vote tally is below:
Augustus (PIP)|none|Edwin Zachariah (Ind)
Ernest Barnard (PAU)||
William Melda (PPP)||
Gustavus Gurra (PPP)||
Heerlo (PAU)||
Albert Bazil (PIP)||
With the passage of the 1822 Orders and the deployment of two of our esteemed colleagues on peacekeeping operations, it falls to me to act as Prime Minister in the Honourable Senator Heerlo's stead until his return. I wish the Honourable Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition all the best in their endeavours. Stay safe and be careful.
As president of a pacifist party I naturally eschew violence of any kind, but I have been persuaded through evidence provided to me that these Luddites cannot be reasoned with. It is therefore an unfortunate necessity in which we act. I understand that previous attempts at diplomacy have ended in the deaths of diplomats representing civilised peoples. So while my preference would be to incarcerate and rehabilitate followers of this movement I accept, even though it goes against every natural inclination of my personhood, that the use of force may be required. If only it were not so. I sincerely hope that one day the people involved in this senseless movement will lay down their arms and return to the fold of society, but that is not this day. Perhaps the Luddites will see reason when you come upon them, but all evidence points to the contrary so I bid you be on your guard at all times.
As Acting Prime Minister of Pulias I will endeavour to steer the good ship of state forward on the same steady path laid down for me by the most excellent examples of the Honourable Prime Minister Heerlo and the former Prime Minister, my colleague and friend the Honourable Senator Gurra. We will continue to pursue a policy agenda of the codification of rules and processes, as well as furthering the democratisation of Government actions where appropriate. The people will have more of a say in the running of the state, and the Government and Senate will continuously look for ways to improve the lives of everyday Pulians.
If our temporarily departing leaders should wish to have any policy input or issues raised, they can of course send them through their proxies for Cabinet and the Senate to contemplate. Unfortunately they will not be able to vote until they return from their mission, but I feel confident the people of Haven of Peace and Coventry will be adequately represented by Senator Zachariah and myself in the Senate in the meantime.
It is quite possible that the peacekeeping operations may take some years to conclude successfully. I know that the Honourable Prime Minister and Opposition Leader will have the support of all citizens of Pulias, and that all Pulians wish them well.
To our brave comrades I say: please come home safe, and come home soon. We will hold things together here in your absence, and look forward to your return.
If you require anything while on manoeuvres please do not hesitate to ask. The Government and Senate are at your service.
Senator the Honourable William Melda
Acting Prime Minister of Pulias
President of the Pulias People's Party
Senator for Haven of Peace
You can either both serve as officers of a single unit, or as officers of two individual units; completely up to you. It won't affect the improvement of POP opinions.
EDIT: Also, the Orders Act appears constitutional to me, and I'll carry these out here in 5-10 business days.
1889
Mayor of H-Marker Lake
This looks really interesting. I've never played a realpolitic game before and don't know what IAAR stands for. I've also never played this scenario and I've only read through the first 4 posts so far, yet I'm pretty sure I'll be an economists from Haven of Peace if that is still possible.
Now help me out a little. I've played Diplo games before but those seem much less rigid than this. Am a single person, a small number of individual people or do I determine the actions of the whole population unit? Can I give technical game advice (move the scout 2 tiles NW, build a granary in Pulias, etc.) or is it all done in character. What exactly do I do if I'm not in the ruling party?
Now help me out a little. I've played Diplo games before but those seem much less rigid than this. Am a single person, a small number of individual people or do I determine the actions of the whole population unit? Can I give technical game advice (move the scout 2 tiles NW, build a granary in Pulias, etc.) or is it all done in character. What exactly do I do if I'm not in the ruling party?
Melda
Wannabe Psephologist
((Yeah, this is my first Realpolitik game, too. 
And I . . . realise I don't actually know what IAAR stands for.
I'm sure the Grand Majah can explain better than I can, but here are some of my initial thoughts.
City-wise, maybe hold off until you've caught up and decided what party you want to join (if any --- presumably you will, though, but independent candidates can run) before firming up on which city you want to reside in. Because if you change your mind later, you'll usually have to pay relocation costs.
On the roleplaying question, I think you can be as light on or as hardcore as you want.
From a game mechanics point of view, you are one player (the spreadsheet of influence only tracks to whatever you do). But to use me as an example, everything I do as an elected representative (formerly candidate) tracks to "Melda", but I've created my main player character "William Melda", who will eventually retire and die and be replaced by his son "Charles Melda" (all "Melda" according to the NPC voters who don't differentiate) --- oh, and each in-game Civ turn is one year on the calendar, which is how I can age my character realistically. However, separate to me I've also created a non-partisan newspaper (just read some of my interviews with the political reporter Harland Godwin, where he/me grills me pretty harshly) called the Haven Herald, and three reporters (political, cultural and general) to staff it. But all these NPCs don't, as far as I'm aware, count toward voting intention for anyone, it's just a layer of roleplaying for extra enjoyment and immersion --- as well as a platform for players to broadcast their views or get called out on things.
As a private citizen of Pulias, you are fairly limited as to the impact you can have on the game. But you're not invisible. You can either make public statements extolling the virtues of certain actions, or try to sway the elected representatives to undertake such actions. You can write to your local representatives --- if you reside in Haven of Peace your two Senators are the Prime Minister, Senator the Honourable Heerlo and myself, the Acting (usually Deputy) Prime Minister, Senator the Honourable William Melda. Another way you can have an impact is to join a political party. Since I'm writing out of character I can be dispassionate about this (which I couldn't be in-character), but the three parties are fairly equally matched in Senate representation and influence separately (you can access all election summaries via my signature, but the most recent elections results can be found here). I believe each party has its own party room (i.e. social group on the forum for private discussion) where you can seek to influence policy development ('I think we should do this').
If you join the Pulias People's Party (my party) or the Pulian Advancement Union you will join one of the two parties fortunate enough to find themselves forming a Coalition Government at this stage. If you join the Pulian Imperial Party you will join the party currently in the role of Official Opposition (whose role it is to hold the government of the day to account for their actions and promises). In ten years (in-game Civ turns) the Senate will be dissolved and a general election held. If you join a party and get their endorsement to run as a candidate you could win a seat in the Senate and become a Senator. Then you could potentially be a minister in the next Government, or could be a member of the next Opposition.
At the moment the current Government has issued its orders for the next few turns, and the Grand Majah is in the process of giving them royal assent --- i.e. he's about to play through the next few turns until something comes up that needs the Government's, or the Senate's, attention.
So hopefully that clears up / answers your questions for now.
If not, let me know and I'll try again.))
And I . . . realise I don't actually know what IAAR stands for.
I'm sure the Grand Majah can explain better than I can, but here are some of my initial thoughts.
City-wise, maybe hold off until you've caught up and decided what party you want to join (if any --- presumably you will, though, but independent candidates can run) before firming up on which city you want to reside in. Because if you change your mind later, you'll usually have to pay relocation costs.
On the roleplaying question, I think you can be as light on or as hardcore as you want.
From a game mechanics point of view, you are one player (the spreadsheet of influence only tracks to whatever you do). But to use me as an example, everything I do as an elected representative (formerly candidate) tracks to "Melda", but I've created my main player character "William Melda", who will eventually retire and die and be replaced by his son "Charles Melda" (all "Melda" according to the NPC voters who don't differentiate) --- oh, and each in-game Civ turn is one year on the calendar, which is how I can age my character realistically. However, separate to me I've also created a non-partisan newspaper (just read some of my interviews with the political reporter Harland Godwin, where he/me grills me pretty harshly) called the Haven Herald, and three reporters (political, cultural and general) to staff it. But all these NPCs don't, as far as I'm aware, count toward voting intention for anyone, it's just a layer of roleplaying for extra enjoyment and immersion --- as well as a platform for players to broadcast their views or get called out on things.
As a private citizen of Pulias, you are fairly limited as to the impact you can have on the game. But you're not invisible. You can either make public statements extolling the virtues of certain actions, or try to sway the elected representatives to undertake such actions. You can write to your local representatives --- if you reside in Haven of Peace your two Senators are the Prime Minister, Senator the Honourable Heerlo and myself, the Acting (usually Deputy) Prime Minister, Senator the Honourable William Melda. Another way you can have an impact is to join a political party. Since I'm writing out of character I can be dispassionate about this (which I couldn't be in-character), but the three parties are fairly equally matched in Senate representation and influence separately (you can access all election summaries via my signature, but the most recent elections results can be found here). I believe each party has its own party room (i.e. social group on the forum for private discussion) where you can seek to influence policy development ('I think we should do this').
If you join the Pulias People's Party (my party) or the Pulian Advancement Union you will join one of the two parties fortunate enough to find themselves forming a Coalition Government at this stage. If you join the Pulian Imperial Party you will join the party currently in the role of Official Opposition (whose role it is to hold the government of the day to account for their actions and promises). In ten years (in-game Civ turns) the Senate will be dissolved and a general election held. If you join a party and get their endorsement to run as a candidate you could win a seat in the Senate and become a Senator. Then you could potentially be a minister in the next Government, or could be a member of the next Opposition.
At the moment the current Government has issued its orders for the next few turns, and the Grand Majah is in the process of giving them royal assent --- i.e. he's about to play through the next few turns until something comes up that needs the Government's, or the Senate's, attention.
So hopefully that clears up / answers your questions for now.
If not, let me know and I'll try again.
))
