Religion Mod

[Sir John]

Ill release v0.2 today... I think Ill add units as well...

 

[Sir John]

Srry, I didnt do it, Ill probably do it today then..

 

[Sir John]

My internet is back up and the new version is coming today, promise...

It have 4 new units and 1 new tech. It also has some other minor changes wich I will put up a list on when I release the mod later today.

 

[Sir John]

Here is the new version...

 

[farting bob]

you might offend a few people (not me) by having holy wars, people fighting against muslims might not be the best mod at the moment......

 

[Sir John]

Well, Civlization is built up so that you dont have to fight...
If you dont want to fight the muslims then dont choose them in the game..

 

[raven]

Originally posted by Sa~Craig


an atheist isn't someone who doesn't believe in god or religion, an atheist is someone that doesn't believe in this reality. they don't even believe they exist

You described "nihilists". All nihilists are surely atheists, but they are a very small portion. Atheists believe that there isn't any spiritual thing. Most of them are materialists.

 

[Sir John]

Atheists are divide into two groups. You have atheists who dont belive in anything and you hav atheists who belive that there ar esome force there, just not God...

BTW: Can somone please give som feedback on the new version??

BTW: Kindred72 is making a monk that looks like a monk and I will add it as soon as its finished..

 

[Cloudyvortex]

Nihilists would make good barb's. Materialists, or Secularists as they prefer to call themselves (I call 'em Apathists), may make a good late game replacement to Democracy. All religions fall to that pathetic excuse of an existence sooner or later. The process is called apostacy, and the West reeks of it. Almost makes me want to convert to Islam. At least it's obvious they believe in something other than their own feeble selves.

Speaking of materialism, statism (yet another form of atheism), the belief that the government is (or should be) omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent, may make a good civ. You may want to divide it into it's main denominations: fascism and socialism (sorry, socies, but you are a religion unto yourself). Along those lines, how about dividing Islam into Sunnism and Shi'ism. And what do you mean by 'Christianity'? All sects of Yeshuah worshippers welcome?

 

[Sir John]

By christianity I mean those that are lutheranians. We have them in our country as Statskirka (statechurch) I england they are the anglican and so on... Good idea with materialists...

 

[tmarcl]

A couple of minor points:

Atheists, for the record, do not believe in the existence of the supernatural. Since this is a *religious* mod, I can see us as barbarians, easily (but only in the context that this is a religious mod, mind you. 'Atheist' does not, and never has meant 'amoral').

Equating Christianity *solely* with Lutheranism is quite insulting to other Christians, not to mention extremely inaccurate. Best to keep it as representing Christianity in general, which, even though it has a multitude of differences, does have core beliefs in common.


Marc

 

[tmarcl]

One more point:

You're right. There are no atheists on a sinking ship. Being practical minded, we managed to get on the life boats first, while all the theists were praying for their god(s) to rescue them. :0)


Marc

 

[Pi Seti]

You might want to change "Jewism" to Judaism or Semitism and "Islam" to Islamicism. Just a thought. Also Mormons, Methodists, Baptists and Jehova's Witnesses are American derivatives of European Protestants. And it would be cool to include Confuscianism in the bunch, as it enjoyed wide popularity during the Middle Ages in the East. Looks like it could potentially be a very interesting MOD.

 

[Ad Hominem]

This MOD has a quite decent (maybe even great) idea as a foundation, but I feel the implementaion leaves much to be desired.

May I suggest a new setup for the reliious groups? It might help you in the long run.

So, I guess keeping Atheists as barbarians makes sence.

Then, you could go by the cultural groups thingy, and implement those as following:

christianity cultural group:

- Catholics
- Orthodox
- Protestants

Middle east of sorts cultural group

- Jews
- Shia Islam
- Sunni Islam

Eastern cultural group

- Hindu
- Buddhists
- Confucians
- Sikh

Pagan cultural group

- Egyptian pagans
- Norse pagans
- Greek pagans
- African pagans

Lutheranista, anglikans, mormons, jehowa witnesses, methodist, episcopians etc. etc. are just branches of the Protestant christians, not religions per se. So, you shouldn't include them.

If you include lutheranists, anglikans, mormons etc. you should also include Koptes, Deists, Russian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox etc. etc. etc.

Not to mention the enormous number of branches for the eastern religions.

For todays major religious groups throughout the world, you might want to check out This little site

 

[anonymous4401]

Originally posted by tmarcl
One more point:

You're right. There are no atheists on a sinking ship. Being practical minded, we managed to get on the life boats first, while all the theists were praying for their god(s) to rescue them. :0)


Marc

To rescue us? I'd be praying that you'd be forgiven for beating me up to get my lifeboat!

 

[Bidyah]

confusion is not a religion !! it's a way of life , it's not a religion if only a sect ! Since when do Philosophers come up with new religions?

I'm atheist ... um and don't think I'm Barbaric or even close!?!

Scientology that be an interesting civ !!!

 

[Sir John]

I have been away for a little while now, but I will work on the mod today and yiu all have great ideas for religions to add in. I will definitivly use the cultural groups. I will include alot of branches and I will go away from the names as christians and and things like that and concentrate more on the real names of the different branches and stuff.

I like that you are giving me ideas for civs as the first set of names was just temporary... Waht I would like now is ideas and responses to the other changes I've done.. What do you think of the resources and terrains? Should anything be changed added??
Im glad some of you like the mod... Soem new unit graphics will sonn be finished as soon as the graphics is done.

I have tought about adding UU's to the mod, but for most of the civs, I dont have a clue. So please help me on this. I will put up a newer version with corected and changed civnames soon...

BTW: To say that mormonism is a branch of protestantism is wrong. According to the mormon belife, The church that the mormons have is the same as jesus ahad on his time with apostles, prophets and so on. So actually they have much more in common with jewism then "protestantism". The mormons is not a branch of any realigion since the founder never joined any other church.

BTW angain: Should I include Satanists in the mod?? They are a religion, but Im not sure if they would be appriciated... I have tought about using them for barbs but atheists fits better...

 

[Bidyah]

I'd definetly that be good for a change !! I'd play them but you should give that civ a good touch of evil satanists

 

[xghost]

Just let me get one thing straight before I start deleting old files to make room for this MOD... the civilizations are the same as they are normally in game, or are they like Heavenly Civ's, and Hellbound Races? Just curious, and oh yeah you left out Orthodox religions, Confucionsim (is that spelled right), Daoism, and others just to mention a few. As well as the little known Scientology! (Maybe you could even add religions yet to come! Such as Chrislam!!!)

 

[Bidyah]

dude it is not a religion look at my post earlier, Confucius was a philosopher and taught a way of life, which wasn't and isn't a religion!!!! but hey if you life fiction ...
Daoism is a good one to add