Religious Extremist calls for Execution of many Americans, many moderates silent

Make that three. In Canada, he would be in violation of the hate speech laws.

No it's still two. Either I'm not being clear enough or people don't want to admit they're getting the distinction of import. Incitement seems to demand more the what idiot boy has spouted off from behind the pulpit. Though if this wasn't a one-off day for him he might merit some watching.
 
How were Lot and his family righteous? Lot's wife immediately disobeyed God. Lot got drunk. Lot's daughters committed incest.

The righteous are still sinner. Peter explained that "Lot vexed his righteous soul", meaning his behaviour was what it shouldn't have been.
 
Oh right.

But that lets the floodgates open, then. Are you saying the whole population of Sodom were righteous after all?

What's your metric for being righteous, if the righteous are sinners and therefore even sinners are righteous?
 
Oh right.

But that lets the floodgates open, then. Are you saying the whole population of Sodom were righteous after all?

What's your metric for being righteous, if the righteous are sinners and therefore even sinners are righteous?

You seem to think that being righteous means you are perfect, not even close. The thing is Lot should have been speaking out against their sin, but instead he was overtaken by the riches of the region, which is why he went to the place.

BTW, this applies to all Christians.

Link to video.
 
No. I don't think being righteous means you're perfect. But the question remains what actually defines it.

^edit: xpost

But the question remains: what does it mean to be sorry and repent? If everyone's a sinner, then repenting doesn't stop you sinning, and therefore of what value is your repentance?
 
Perhaps your measuring value in a different currency.

If I meditate tonight and fail to achieve nirvana, of what value is the meditation?
 
Perhaps your measuring value in a different currency.

If I meditate tonight and fail to achieve nirvana, of what value is the meditation?

"Meditation brings wisdom; lack of meditation leaves ignorance. Know well what leads you forward and what holds you back." - Buddha.
 
No. I don't think being righteous means you're perfect. But the question remains what actually defines it.

^edit: xpost

But the question remains: what does it mean to be sorry and repent? If everyone's a sinner, then repenting doesn't stop you sinning, and therefore of what value is your repentance?

For those who latch onto the notion that hate speech is wrong, the concept of God should not be that hard to grasp.

Hate speech is tied to the notion that it either hurts another person's feelings thousands of miles away, or there is the potential it could result in harmful actions.

God set it up so it does not matter what choice a human makes, if it is not God's choice, then humans are screwed.

Humans have feelings and those feelings are going to constantly be rubbed the wrong way by at least one or more other humans. If we all lived in harmony, we would not have to make any hard choices in life, and we would all get along like programmed robots.

Repentance is not a magic wand that wipes away the wrath of God. Repentance is the small window in time where we realize that God's way is the only way, and we align ourselves with God. That does not change the fact that a minute later we are back to doing things our way again.

Even those who try their hardest to follow God's way, are going against their own ability to do so. The accused person in the OP is not doing God justice by declaring the Law of God needs to be enacted on humanity, after the point that God already satisfied such judgment in the person of the Christ. Repentance acknowledges what Christ did. It has no redeeming quality on the merit that we deemed ourselves righteous enough to repent.

Hate speech is annoying, but it is a natural way to express ones point of view. Humans who think they can change human nature may think that they can replace God, or even do away with Him, are also faced with the task of eradicating humanity as well.
 
I thought the righteous are the ones who are surrounded by corpses of sinners and heathens.
We're doing what we can to banish such stereotypes. Unfortunately, the moronic media contribute to the problem. No news is good news.
 
No. I do mean all the sensationalist morons who insist on selling crime, murder porn, etc. and will help broadcast and diffuse the message of these self-styled preachers who do a lot of damage instead of helping, say, with charity or with sending out a message of peace.
 
The righteous are still sinner. Peter explained that "Lot vexed his righteous soul", meaning his behaviour was what it shouldn't have been.

What actually happened was that the propagandists that wrote that part of the Bible got so caught in twisting people they didn't like into the descendants of a couple of drunken and incestrial couplings that they forgot for a number of verses that Lot and his family were among the righteous.
 
Good people have no PR teams.
We're naive enough to tend to think that being good is enough of an advertisement on its own. :undecide:
What actually happened was that the propagandists that wrote that part of the Bible got so caught in twisting people they didn't like into the descendants of a couple of drunken and incestrial couplings that they forgot for a number of verses that Lot and his family were among the righteous.
I sometimes think that the Bible had some copy-pasta'ing errors (especially the Old Testament) and that many recent exegetists have been afflicted with self-induced dyslexia. It's a self-defense mechanism: what do you do if your own holy book contradicts your own moronic statements?

U.S. 'Christians' would burn me at the stake if I were within reach.
 
Less like "copy-pasting" errors, and more like copy-scribing errors. Especially, the several hundred revisions from 1 AD to this very day, the amount of times it has been rewritten, edited, then burnt, then published anew, then some guy translating it in German, causing all sorts of problems..
 
I sometimes think that the Bible had some copy-pasta'ing errors (especially the Old Testament) and that many recent exegetists have been afflicted with self-induced dyslexia. It's a self-defense mechanism: what do you do if your own holy book bonk contradicts your own moronic statements?
Obviously.
 
Abraham just lacked the faith to ask God to spare the city for the sinners, since even the righteous are sinners in God's eyes.

Modern people lack the faith that God is in control; and there is no need to re-create the Law of sin and death.
 
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