Reviving a woolly mammoth

Can you ride a mammoth for war? Could a man with an anti-tank gun ride a mammoth into battle against a tank and win?

A man with an anti-tank gun has decent chances to win against tank... but they are lots better if he is quietly lying behind bushes and NOT flaunting itself atop of extremely noticeable and vulnerable beast.:rolleyes:
 
Reviving Neanderthals would be like reviving a man from 50,000 BC, humans have changed since then and may not have the same abilities modern man does.

I am pretty sure that humans (H. sapiens) of 50,000, or even 100,000 years ago were more like us than a Neanderthal would be.
 
I am pretty sure that humans (H. sapiens) of 50,000, or even 100,000 years ago were more like us than a Neanderthal would be.

Oh I'm not debating that, I'm just saying that trying to get a Neanderthal to live in modern society would be like trying to get a man from 50,000+ years ago to live in it, which is to say, in my mind, difficult, because we've changed as a species since then. If that's true or not, I don't know.
 
After we teach the Man english i wouldn't be surprised it be that difficult. As long as you bring him to this room with a giant globe around it and showed him what happened the last 50,000 years.
 
we made them, we own them.
Exactly my views on children.

Maybe we can put them in Hollywood movies.

See, they pay for themselves, let's get on it already.
Guys, please, it's already been done, both the cloning and the Hollywood movie acting.

The 6th Day.

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PS: How the hell is it that it took me at least 15 minutes to find an image of Arnie that would work?
 
Oh I'm not debating that, I'm just saying that trying to get a Neanderthal to live in modern society would be like trying to get a man from 50,000+ years ago to live in it, which is to say, in my mind, difficult, because we've changed as a species since then. If that's true or not, I don't know.

Well, the only ways we could get a person from 50,000 years ago in our day is through time travel or through cloning. If it's cloning, they would start as a baby and it would be no easier or harder to get them to fit in modern society than any other baby. If it's time travel, that is a different story.
 
Well, the only ways we could get a person from 50,000 years ago in our day is through time travel or through cloning. If it's cloning, they would start as a baby and it would be no easier or harder to get them to fit in modern society than any other baby. If it's time travel, that is a different story.

But that's what I'm not so sure about, I was thinking of cloning, and I wonder if a human from back then would be the same as one from now, if we go back far enough they may not have the same abilities to speak, or predisposed to attain the same kind of knowledge or something. And that goes back to me talking out of my ass because I have no idea if that's true.
 
But that's what I'm not so sure about, I was thinking of cloning, and I wonder if a human from back then would be the same as one from now, if we go back far enough they may not have the same abilities to speak, or predisposed to attain the same kind of knowledge or something. And that goes back to me talking out of my ass because I have no idea if that's true.

I don't think 50 000 years would make much of a difference. And according to wiki, humans emerged around 200 000 years ago.

Neanderthals are a different story, since they were a different species. But I don't think they were much dumber than us.

This was interesting(wiki): Statistical analysis strongly suggests that 5% of the genetic material of modern West Africans and Europeans has an archaic origin, due to interbreeding with Neanderthal and a hitherto unknown archaic African population.
 
Exactly my views on children.

I'll tell you the problem with the scientific power that you're using here: it didn't require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility... for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could and before you even knew what you had you patented it and packaged it and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now you're selling it, you want to sell it!
 
I don't think 50 000 years would make much of a difference. And according to wiki, humans emerged around 200 000 years ago.

Neanderthals are a different story, since they were a different species. But I don't think they were much dumber than us.

This was interesting(wiki): Statistical analysis strongly suggests that 5% of the genetic material of modern West Africans and Europeans has an archaic origin, due to interbreeding with Neanderthal and a hitherto unknown archaic African population.

i thought it had been descided that interbreeding between Neanderthals and early humans was impossible, and child sterile and akin to a mule?

though i've also read that red hair is a relic of Neanderthal interbreeding with early humans...
 
I'll tell you the problem with the scientific power that you're using here: it didn't require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility... for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could and before you even knew what you had you patented it and packaged it and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now you're selling it, you want to sell it!

The rest of this thread should be nothing but Dr. Malcolm quotes.
 
i thought it had been descided that interbreeding between Neanderthals and early humans was impossible, and child sterile and akin to a mule?

though i've also read that red hair is a relic of Neanderthal interbreeding with early humans...

The definition of a species is that two individuals can't have fertile children, yes. But the thing is that(this is something creationists can't comprehend) species is a continous phenomenon not a discreet one, so the answer to your question is yes and no. Perhaps some neanderthals and some humans could interbreed, but not all, who knows. Fact is anyway that we were very closely related, and some classify neanderthals as a different subspecies of humans. (Homo sapiens neanderthalensis or Homo neanderthalensis).
 
I was under the impression that neanderthals were generally considered to be a different subspecies, but the view that they were seperate species being a significant minority. From what I've read it appears that interbreeding almost certainly happened, so I tend to view Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis and Homo Sapiens Sapiens as subspecies.



You know, all male Tigons (cross between a male tiger and a female lion) and Ligers (cross between a female tiger and a male lion) are sterile, but females are usually fertile with males of either of their parents' species.
 
In Jean M. Auel's Earth's Children series, Cro-Magnon regularly interbreed with Neanderthals. Though even I'd think twice about hitting a Neanderthal woman, and I'm horny all the time lately.
 
God creates dinosaurs. God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man. Man destroys God. Man creates dinosaurs..
Dinosaur eats man. Women inherits the Earth.

That's on in Australia over the weekend btw. Saturday night I think, for any Aussies that are in the least bit interested.
 
We don't have enough genetic information about Neanderthals to determine if we can interbreed. To the best of my knowledge, anyway.
 
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