RFC Europe playtesting feedback thread
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3Miro
Deity
Do you have a save from the Autoruns right before you spawn?
I guess it's just more of my tough luck, but yesterday I got the feeling the AI was trying testing how much I'm willing to take xD
Playing Germany on Monarch..
everythings just fine
Up until the first Crusade(I won), well Arabia collapsed 1 turn before my troops arrived so they got scattered all over Hungary
Oh well nevermind, I'll take them to Constantinopel(Byzantine is OP anyway)
Another crusade was called while I was whacking down those walls(I won), Venice took over and captured the city
(Venice is my Vassal)
Ok, not giving up yet.. march towards Jerusalem.. Byzantium collapses when I came near Antiochia, troops get pushed back to Constantinopel.
3. Crusade (I won again)... Spain takes over the crusade
At that point I stopped the game, elsewise I would've had to declare war on everybody and raze every damn town in Spain xD
There's still plenty of time for a 4th or 5th crusade (late 1100's)
but somehow I get the feeling that they won't work out either^^
The point being.. tough luck/bad timing or should the Crusaders of the 1st Crusade arive at Jerusalem despite the Arabian collapse?
I'm not sure but I think I read about a situation like that in a previous version, but I have no idea where/when/how. (just something about crusades and collapsing arabia)
Playing Germany on Monarch..
everythings just fine
Up until the first Crusade(I won), well Arabia collapsed 1 turn before my troops arrived so they got scattered all over Hungary
Oh well nevermind, I'll take them to Constantinopel(Byzantine is OP anyway)
Another crusade was called while I was whacking down those walls(I won), Venice took over and captured the city
(Venice is my Vassal)Ok, not giving up yet.. march towards Jerusalem.. Byzantium collapses when I came near Antiochia, troops get pushed back to Constantinopel.
3. Crusade (I won again)... Spain takes over the crusade
At that point I stopped the game, elsewise I would've had to declare war on everybody and raze every damn town in Spain xD
There's still plenty of time for a 4th or 5th crusade (late 1100's)
but somehow I get the feeling that they won't work out either^^
The point being.. tough luck/bad timing or should the Crusaders of the 1st Crusade arive at Jerusalem despite the Arabian collapse?
I'm not sure but I think I read about a situation like that in a previous version, but I have no idea where/when/how. (just something about crusades and collapsing arabia)
3Miro
Deity
I should run a second check on the Crusade arrival. If Jerusalem changes ownership in the mean time, you should be able to declare war on the new owner automatically (As opposed to scattering your troops).
Venice trying to capture Constantinople is fine, however, the question is did Spain take over the crusade financially? If Venice buys the second Crusade, Spain shouldn't be able to buy the third (they should wait for the fourth at the earliest). Also, why are you saying you have to destroy stuff in Iberia, if Spain buys the crusade, they will control the units and use them against Cordoba.
Venice trying to capture Constantinople is fine, however, the question is did Spain take over the crusade financially? If Venice buys the second Crusade, Spain shouldn't be able to buy the third (they should wait for the fourth at the earliest). Also, why are you saying you have to destroy stuff in Iberia, if Spain buys the crusade, they will control the units and use them against Cordoba.
yep, financial takeover
that's what made it somewhat frustrating, I won 3 crusades but not really
the intent behind destruction was revenge for annoying me
I would've killed Venice too, but you can't do that to Vassals(having a fit like a spoiled medieval king that has been insulted by an envoy, kill the envoy and declare war)
I have no idea about the timing between the crusades, but I found that the 2nd came pretty early after the 1st
Are they based on fixed dates or so? (if Jerusalem is not owned by a cath civ)
The part with Venice was ok, but they deceived me
(naughty vassal)I hadn't noticed that they had done a financial takeover so I was expecting to get a 2nd crusader army the next turns
The Venetian crusader Army was attacking from the other side(not visible to me), so I didn't know what was going on until they suddenly captured it after I had done most of the work.
btw can you get 2 such armies?(don't see a reason why not)
Unfortunately no, but I launch a muscovy game to see if the same thing happens.
3Miro
Deity
yep, financial takeover
that's what made it somewhat frustrating, I won 3 crusades but not really
the intent behind destruction was revenge for annoying me
(having a fit like a spoiled medieval king that has been insulted by an envoy, kill the envoy and declare war)
I have no idea about the timing between the crusades, but I found that the 2nd came pretty early after the 1st
Are they based on fixed dates or so? (if Jerusalem is not owned by a cath civ)
Two bugs then. You should have automatically declared war to the Indies when they got Jerusalem and Spain should not have taken the third Crusade. Will look into it.
merijn_v1
Black Belt
It's already noticed and fixed in the next version. Thanks anyway.
3Miro
Deity
3Miro
Deity
I know what happened ... Venice did not use financial power to take over the Crusade, they won it by voting. There are 4 independent players and any indy city at any point can flip form one player to another. The Indy owner changed and the Venecial army that was supposed to spawn near Jerusalem spawned in the nearest "free" location, which was apparently close to Constantinople ... at least I think this is what happened.Man you really are getting ultra strange scenarios, but it is good that you find those "issues".
AbsintheRed
Deity
Man you really are getting ultra strange scenarios, but it is good that you find those "issues".
Isn't it possible that Venice didn't win the crusade at all, just had a wandering unit on the other side of Constantinople and marched in when all the defences were down?
Were your vassal, so got in war with byzantium when you did...
The attacking units were knights, I'm not sure but I don't think they had Chivalry at the time
and if they didn't win, who did? there was a vote, and I voted for myself, I thought I had also seen that I had won but then things went south
but I won the 5th crusade now and got 10 knights 2 arm. lancers and the rest
and in the process, Al Eskandariah doesn't get renamed to Alexandria if Germany captures it
I liberated Gazahh to Venice.
and if they didn't win, who did? there was a vote, and I voted for myself, I thought I had also seen that I had won but then things went south
but I won the 5th crusade now and got 10 knights 2 arm. lancers and the rest
and in the process, Al Eskandariah doesn't get renamed to Alexandria if Germany captures it
I liberated Gazahh to Venice.
3Miro
Deity
You should get a log message on who won a Crusade.
I've never seen one, only the dow or if a financial takeover takes place
either it's the wrong log or not there
dow in 1227 , capture of Jerusalem in 1239 but no mentioning of a crusade
initial arabian collapse in 1098 (1st crusade)
in 1149 Constantinopel captured by Venice(with Knights)
They were damn fast if the researched the tech, built knights and somehow moved them past Constantinople to attack from the east
I got Chivalry in 1188
3Miro
Deity
There is not even a "Pope has called for a Crusade" message.
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