Did they even eat rice in Europe? I can't think of any European dish with rice in it....
Have you heard of Italian risotto ?
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Have you heard of Italian risotto ?
oh lol, no I hadn't really thought of that....
True dat though. Ok, I mean this is not my mod, if you guys are inclined to add a rice route through the Indian Ocean, feel free to. But I'm just saying that I don't think you'll find a source that says that they actually did. Of course its once again up to the mod creators to decide what to do. But I think the resources I mentioned were more important to that trade route.
Wessel V1
Emperor
Paella and risotto perhaps I guess but there is rice in Spain and Italy already.
EDIT: Oh, didn't see the new page, but I had to mention Paella of course.
EDIT: Oh, didn't see the new page, but I had to mention Paella of course.
Rice came to Italy by way of Arab merchants as far as I know, just like they lifted the idea for the Pizza from the Arab world .. like early European Japanese - taking something foreign and making it their own only better
Same thing for the Paella, it too originated with the ones from the east, in that case the Moors.
On a completely unrelated note:
Sacking Jerusalem gives a happiness and faith boost, but what when it fails or city is lost again?
I am getting sick and tired of watching Charlemagne trying and failing repeatedly, couldn't the Pope penalise unsuccessful crusades by removing faith points and/or happiness in the same vein?
Did they even eat rice in Europe? I can't think of any European dish with rice in it....
Yes, Italians, Spanish, and IIRC English and French too
fireclaw722
Imperial Guard
Rice came to Italy by way of Arab merchants as far as I know, just like they lifted the idea for the Pizza from the Arab world .. like early European Japanese - taking something foreign and making it their own only better
Same thing for the Paella, it too originated with the ones from the east, in that case the Moors.
On a completely unrelated note:
Sacking Jerusalem gives a happiness and faith boost, but what when it fails or city is lost again?
I am getting sick and tired of watching Charlemagne trying and failing repeatedly, couldn't the Pope penalise unsuccessful crusades by removing faith points and/or happiness in the same vein?
Many uncompleted crusades should give alot of unhapiness, as the people would be angry for wasted time and effort in a foriegn land.
Or maybe the Magna Carta.
Ambreville
Deity
Shouldn't a new crusade become more potent after the previous failed?
Since this doesn't appear to be based on history, what is it based on?
Based on what certain people would like the crusades to be like, i guess
Ambreville
Deity
I think I found a bug. Germany won a historical victory in 856AD...
fireclaw722
Imperial Guard
Huh?
Um, King Richard the Lionhearted was extremely unpopular in England because he was failing to rule them and instead participated in Crusades, which failed. Also it is a bit of common sense, people waste men, money, and effort on some foriegn land, that has no noticable effect it their lives, and said foriegn land remains in enemy hands, they aren't going to be too particularly happy...
Ambreville
Deity
I ran into a situation where a city that I had captured the turn before became "independent" along with the entire invasion force that had just moved into it. Is this another bug?
Ambreville
Deity
Morholt
Prince
Not really. For much of the time period of the game, monarchs did not directly control most of the army, since there was no standing professional army. Most of it was owned by feudal lords who could very well decide that they were tired of cooperating with the king (notably in Poland).
pauluslupus
Chieftain
Kyiv food.
Hi, I tried play Kyiv with Beta 9. On main screen, under stability points there is info about food. For a long time there was value 0. Now I can see there value 100. I supposed, there should be value of collected food for UHV. Is there a way how to find out amount of collected food elsewhere?
Hi, I tried play Kyiv with Beta 9. On main screen, under stability points there is info about food. For a long time there was value 0. Now I can see there value 100. I supposed, there should be value of collected food for UHV. Is there a way how to find out amount of collected food elsewhere?
3Miro
Deity
You should see the Kiev food on the left. If not, this is a bug. I will look into it.
Ambreville
Deity
In that case, it should happen a lot more often all over one's realm, which it doesn't. This seems like a totally unnecessary addition to CIV4. It's frustrating on a game level and not realistic anyway. Even in medieval times, when a monarch conquers a city and his army moves in, it doesn't suddenly go away along with his entire army. That's not some feudal lord acting up! It looks to me like total game design bologna. The cure for this is to dump the game and reload, and "mirabile dictu"... the bogus revolt does not occur!
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