They had over 20,000 in my game, it's just weird.
RFC Europe playtesting feedback thread
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merijn_v1
Black Belt
Yes and no. The code is changed, but you can't download it (yet). You only can get those updates earlier if you have sourceforge.
Duke of Awesome
Warlord
is that why the Norse always settle Gotland? and why the Venetians always settle Corf? (which i always thought was Corfu...)
Duke of Awesome
Warlord
sorry for the double post but i just loaded up my first Muscovy game and noticed something very wrong. ive been using my Boyars to conquer the barbarian cities of what was once Kiev and the year is like 1359 or something like that. i just captured a city and lost it to a keshik attacking my weakened Boyar and i checked the victory screen and it said i failed the UHV of no barbarian cities in Eastern Europe by 1482. i lost a UHV 100 years before its even possible. any particular reason why this happened? 
Bulgaria was fun. Took the entire European part of Byzantium in a few turns, and a couple hundred years later got Constantinople. Kept playing till 1600, Most advanced civ around, with 4 vassals (France, Portugal, Kiev and Hungary). running 90% research 10% espionage, earning around 160 a turn (Medici Bank is amazing).
First two UHV were easy, surprisingly the 3rd is the hardest. Barely made it even when making every prophet I had a saint.
I've reached the conclusion that for eastern Europeans, Portugal is the best vassal ever (Atlantic Access is awesome).
The feedback part:
The Byzantine cities seemed extremely poorly guarded, my initial horse guys (I forget the name of that unit) where enough to take Edrine, Thessaloniki and Athens. I had a lot of luck, but it still seemed too easy.
First two UHV were easy, surprisingly the 3rd is the hardest. Barely made it even when making every prophet I had a saint.
I've reached the conclusion that for eastern Europeans, Portugal is the best vassal ever (Atlantic Access is awesome).
The feedback part:
The Byzantine cities seemed extremely poorly guarded, my initial horse guys (I forget the name of that unit) where enough to take Edrine, Thessaloniki and Athens. I had a lot of luck, but it still seemed too easy.
The early plague weakens Byzantine too much, something that human players can easily exploit. That's why at the moment playing with Bulgaria is closer to a joke than a challenge. Even AI Bulgaria seems to exploit this every now and then, which is the reason why Bulgaria is often very strong. If Ai can do it, we know that something is definetly wrong! These gaming problems and the lacking intention to fix them, even when reported, is the reason I hardly even bother to playtest this very potential mod anymore.
merijn_v1
Black Belt
The main problem for this is that only 3Miro (and maybe Sedna) can solve this. But both have very little time. We have the intention, but not the time. (The very few coders left don't have the capabilities).
I thought the early byzantine plague was already weakened? The last time I played bulgaria, the byzantines had swordsmen running around, and I could only take the first 2 of their cities right away because I had to fight them.
I still eventually took constantinople with a huge stack of catapults, but it wasn't any easier than most of the other civs. Its not obvious to me what the right point to balance that plague is. It needs to make the bulgarians threatening to a human player playing the byzantines without spoiling the other side too much.
I still eventually took constantinople with a huge stack of catapults, but it wasn't any easier than most of the other civs. Its not obvious to me what the right point to balance that plague is. It needs to make the bulgarians threatening to a human player playing the byzantines without spoiling the other side too much.
Well historically, it was the plague that brought the Byzantine Empire to its knees, essentially, as in it quickly reduced the man power needed for its overseas empire, which therefore quickly collapsed (in Spain, parts of North Africa and Italy), but the plauge also hit the Persian Empire (not represented in the game), so effectively it brought both sides to a stalemate, as for the Bulgarians, perhaps spawning them later, would be a better idea, or decreasing the amount of units they start off with (less attacking units, more archers), and have them get him by the plague as well. This is what I would do.
Yes, I am aware of this and the fact that this is something that they are doing for all of us. Maybe I should've been more clear that my main nuisance is basicly that when somebody reports a problem and offers a possible solution, the probability that these suggestions get lost in these endless threads is very high. This has happened to me, for example, a couple of times.
Duke of Awesome
Warlord
i just loaded up an Austria game and the whole starting situation seemed... cluttered. i didnt have enough room for a 3rd city because i was blocked by Venetian German Polish and Hungarian borders. also i feel neglected because no one addressed my Muscovy problem 
wolfigor
Emperor
It's not weird.
With their UB (banks) and at least a corporation Genoa can easily get hundreds of golds per turn (easily a thousand).
Given that there is little use for the gold, it's normal that Genoa can accumulate so much gold.
I noted that the game used the term "Religious Prosecution." I believe the correct term you are looking for is "Religious Persecution."
I've played a few times as Burgundy and one time I crushed Germany since they DOW'd me for really no reason. The other time, I was on my way to maybe making the first UHV, but stopped for some reason. And, the last time I tried France became so powerful that I gave up. I know these aren't the best comments since I didn't play that long, but basically I think Burgundy seems pretty balanced so far in my experience.
I've played a few times as Burgundy and one time I crushed Germany since they DOW'd me for really no reason. The other time, I was on my way to maybe making the first UHV, but stopped for some reason. And, the last time I tried France became so powerful that I gave up. I know these aren't the best comments since I didn't play that long, but basically I think Burgundy seems pretty balanced so far in my experience.
JediClemente
Prince
I don't know if anyone has noticed before, but the spanish UP + switching to protestantism = overkill.
It's preferable to switch than winning the UHV! Or at least more enjoyable.
It's preferable to switch than winning the UHV! Or at least more enjoyable.
LOLzz @ a Protestant Spain!
really needs to be weighted heavily against Protestant
JediClemente
Prince
Why? It's fun. And playing as Spain you're supposed to remain Catholic.
In any case I'd change the religious points thing for Catholicism. It should get a bonus in the late game. Surely not the same as before the Reformation (Printing Press), but something, not inmediately but some few techs later.
The Counter-Reformation was no joke.
Sorry for going off topic a bit, but has any one realised what an epic finale the Spain vs Holland game is going to be? The old Spanish masters versus the Protestant villagers, I mean War of the Spanish Succesion anyone?
Sorry just an idea which popped into my head
Sorry just an idea which popped into my head
What I meant was to basically force the AI to favor Catholicism
how about ~1545? That's when the Church began the reformation, also the Jesuits should play a part in it (they were missionaries, educators and they battled corruption).
I agree about changing when the bonuses come into play because most in Europe are Catholic before reformation
I think Cordoba should get reduced penalties to other religions because Catholics, Muslims and Jews peacefully co-existed and Jews were push to get heights of learning and culture. Actually they should probably get money from other religions (taxes)
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