RFCEurope 1.1

merijn_v1 · Jan 15, 2013

@ Absinthered

Is is possible to have regions in the list of which areas of another region, or can it only by provinces? I created some additional regions for the generic mercs, that consist of some other, already existing regions and some provinces. (the last few lines of the example) Will this be recognized by the python? Or should I only have provinces in the list?
I hope this is clear enough.

Spoiler :

(This is from the XML consts. Allmost at the bottom of the file.)

Code:

# those regions are for easier access for UHV and Mercs
lRegionIberia		= [ iP_GaliciaSpain, iP_Castile, iP_Leon, iP_Lusitania, iP_Catalonia, iP_Aragon, iP_Valencia, iP_Andalusia, iP_Navarre, iP_LaMancha ]
lRegionFrance		= [ iP_Normandy, iP_Bretagne, iP_IleDeFrance, iP_Orleans, iP_Picardy ]
lRegionBurgundy		= [ iP_Provence, iP_Burgundy, iP_Champagne, iP_Flanders ]
lRegionBritain		= [ iP_London, iP_Wales, iP_Wessex, iP_Scotland, iP_EastAnglia, iP_Mercia, iP_Northumbria, iP_Ireland ]
lRegionScandinavia	= [ iP_Denmark, iP_Osterland, iP_Norway, iP_Vestfold, iP_Gotaland, iP_Svealand, iP_Norrland, iP_Oppland, iP_Skaneland, iP_Gotland ]
lRegionGermany		= [ iP_Lorraine, iP_Swabia, iP_Saxony, iP_Bavaria, iP_Franconia, iP_Brandenburg ]
lRegionPoland		= [ iP_Pomerania, iP_GaliciaPoland, iP_GreaterPoland, iP_LesserPoland, iP_Silesia, iP_Masovia ]
lRegionLithuania		= [ iP_Lithuania, iP_Livonia, iP_Estonia ]
lRegionAustria		= [ iP_Carinthia, iP_Austria, iP_Moravia, iP_Bohemia, iP_Silesia ]
lRegionHungary		= [ iP_Transylvania, iP_Hungary, iP_Slavonia, iP_Croatia, iP_Pannonia, iP_UpperHungary ]
lRegionBalkans		= [ iP_Serbia, iP_Thrace, iP_Macedonia, iP_Moesia, iP_Arberia, iP_Croatia, iP_Bosnia ]
lRegionGreece		= [ iP_Constantinople, iP_Thessaly, iP_Epirus, iP_Morea, iP_Thessaloniki ]
lRegionAsiaMinor		= [ iP_Colonea, iP_Charsiadon, iP_Cilicia, iP_Armeniakon, iP_Anatolikon, iP_Paphlagonia, iP_Thrakesion, iP_Opsikion ]
lRegionMiddleEast		= [ iP_Antiochia, iP_Syria, iP_Lebanon, iP_Arabia, iP_Jerusalem ]
lRegionAfrica		= [ iP_Oran, iP_Algiers, iP_Ifriqiya, iP_Cyrenaica, iP_Tripolitania, iP_Tetouan, iP_Morocco, iP_Marrakesh, iP_Fez ]
lRegionKiev			= [ iP_Moldova, iP_Kiev, iP_Crimea, iP_Zaporizhia, iP_Sloboda, iP_Pereyaslavl, iP_Chernigov, iP_Podolia, iP_Minsk ]
lRegionItaly		= [ iP_Lombardy, iP_Verona, iP_Tuscany, iP_Latium, iP_Calabria, iP_Apulia, iP_Malta ]
lRegionSwiss		= [ iP_Bavaria, iP_Austria, iP_Swabia, iP_Burgundy, iP_Lorraine, iP_Champagne, iP_Provence, iP_Lombardy, iP_Verona, iP_Franconia, iP_Bohemia ]
lRegionRussia		= [ iP_Vologda, iP_Karelia, iP_Novgorod, iP_NizhnyNovgorod, iP_Rostov, iP_Moscow, iP_Smolensk, iP_Polotsk, iP_Murom, iP_Simbirsk ]
lRegionMercWest		= [ lRegionFrance, lRegionBritain, iP_Aquitania, iP_Flanders, iP_Holland, iP_Champagne, iP_Burgundy, iP_Saxony, iP_Franconia, iP_Swabia], 
lRegionMercSouth		= [ lRegionIberia, lRegionItaly, iP_Provence ]
lRegionMercArabia		= [ lRegionAsiaMinor, lRegionMiddleEast, iP_Egypt ]
lRegionMercBaltic		= [ lRegionPoland, lRegionLithuania, lRegionAustria, iP_Brandenburg ]
lRegionMercBaltic		= [ lRegionHungary, lRegionBalkans, lRegionGreece ]
lRegionMercRus		= [ lRegionKiev, lRegionRussia, iP_Brest, iP_Kuban, iP_Donets, iP_Volhynia ]

ezzlar · Jan 15, 2013

I think a good start is that all starting units except human starting units get a boost for their starting units to the next teir. Arabs and Bulgarians get 3 crossbowmen instead of archers. Burgundians get twice the crossbowmen. Genoa gets balestrieri instead of crossbowmen. Ottomans get pikemen instead of guisarmiers.

This to ensure no wipe at start since many of them can start at war with human.

AbsintheRed · Jan 15, 2013

merijn_v1 said:

@ Absinthered

Is is possible to have regions in the list of which areas of another region, or can it only by provinces? I created some additional regions for the generic mercs, that consist of some other, already existing regions and some provinces. (the last few lines of the example) Will this be recognized by the python? Or should I only have provinces in the list?
I hope this is clear enough.

Spoiler :

(This is from the XML consts. Allmost at the bottom of the file.)

Code:

# those regions are for easier access for UHV and Mercs
lRegionIberia		= [ iP_GaliciaSpain, iP_Castile, iP_Leon, iP_Lusitania, iP_Catalonia, iP_Aragon, iP_Valencia, iP_Andalusia, iP_Navarre, iP_LaMancha ]
lRegionFrance		= [ iP_Normandy, iP_Bretagne, iP_IleDeFrance, iP_Orleans, iP_Picardy ]
lRegionBurgundy		= [ iP_Provence, iP_Burgundy, iP_Champagne, iP_Flanders ]
lRegionBritain		= [ iP_London, iP_Wales, iP_Wessex, iP_Scotland, iP_EastAnglia, iP_Mercia, iP_Northumbria, iP_Ireland ]
lRegionScandinavia	= [ iP_Denmark, iP_Osterland, iP_Norway, iP_Vestfold, iP_Gotaland, iP_Svealand, iP_Norrland, iP_Oppland, iP_Skaneland, iP_Gotland ]
lRegionGermany		= [ iP_Lorraine, iP_Swabia, iP_Saxony, iP_Bavaria, iP_Franconia, iP_Brandenburg ]
lRegionPoland		= [ iP_Pomerania, iP_GaliciaPoland, iP_GreaterPoland, iP_LesserPoland, iP_Silesia, iP_Masovia ]
lRegionLithuania		= [ iP_Lithuania, iP_Livonia, iP_Estonia ]
lRegionAustria		= [ iP_Carinthia, iP_Austria, iP_Moravia, iP_Bohemia, iP_Silesia ]
lRegionHungary		= [ iP_Transylvania, iP_Hungary, iP_Slavonia, iP_Croatia, iP_Pannonia, iP_UpperHungary ]
lRegionBalkans		= [ iP_Serbia, iP_Thrace, iP_Macedonia, iP_Moesia, iP_Arberia, iP_Croatia, iP_Bosnia ]
lRegionGreece		= [ iP_Constantinople, iP_Thessaly, iP_Epirus, iP_Morea, iP_Thessaloniki ]
lRegionAsiaMinor		= [ iP_Colonea, iP_Charsiadon, iP_Cilicia, iP_Armeniakon, iP_Anatolikon, iP_Paphlagonia, iP_Thrakesion, iP_Opsikion ]
lRegionMiddleEast		= [ iP_Antiochia, iP_Syria, iP_Lebanon, iP_Arabia, iP_Jerusalem ]
lRegionAfrica		= [ iP_Oran, iP_Algiers, iP_Ifriqiya, iP_Cyrenaica, iP_Tripolitania, iP_Tetouan, iP_Morocco, iP_Marrakesh, iP_Fez ]
lRegionKiev			= [ iP_Moldova, iP_Kiev, iP_Crimea, iP_Zaporizhia, iP_Sloboda, iP_Pereyaslavl, iP_Chernigov, iP_Podolia, iP_Minsk ]
lRegionItaly		= [ iP_Lombardy, iP_Verona, iP_Tuscany, iP_Latium, iP_Calabria, iP_Apulia, iP_Malta ]
lRegionSwiss		= [ iP_Bavaria, iP_Austria, iP_Swabia, iP_Burgundy, iP_Lorraine, iP_Champagne, iP_Provence, iP_Lombardy, iP_Verona, iP_Franconia, iP_Bohemia ]
lRegionRussia		= [ iP_Vologda, iP_Karelia, iP_Novgorod, iP_NizhnyNovgorod, iP_Rostov, iP_Moscow, iP_Smolensk, iP_Polotsk, iP_Murom, iP_Simbirsk ]
lRegionMercWest		= [ lRegionFrance, lRegionBritain, iP_Aquitania, iP_Flanders, iP_Holland, iP_Champagne, iP_Burgundy, iP_Saxony, iP_Franconia, iP_Swabia], 
lRegionMercSouth		= [ lRegionIberia, lRegionItaly, iP_Provence ]
lRegionMercArabia		= [ lRegionAsiaMinor, lRegionMiddleEast, iP_Egypt ]
lRegionMercBaltic		= [ lRegionPoland, lRegionLithuania, lRegionAustria, iP_Brandenburg ]
lRegionMercBaltic		= [ lRegionHungary, lRegionBalkans, lRegionGreece ]
lRegionMercRus		= [ lRegionKiev, lRegionRussia, iP_Brest, iP_Kuban, iP_Donets, iP_Volhynia ]

There is a chance it works, depends on what argumentum does the lRegion use. If not, just copypaste all those provinces in
However, improving the mercenary system is in the top 3 major things on my todo list.
Along with finalizing the map changes (and everything connected to it) in the Levant and Egypt, and revising the minor civ revolution system

Not sure how far I will get, but as I said I have much time to mod in the next 3 weeks
So it's great if you make adjustments to the current system, but I don't guarantee your changes will be long-living

merijn_v1 · Jan 16, 2013

What kind of adjustments do you want to make. If they completely revert my changes, I won't put the energie in it.

rfcfanatic · Jan 16, 2013

Is it just me, but the wording of the Hungarian Black Army guest ("Control the most territory in Europe in 1490") feels kind of ambiguous. At first I thought that I had to conquer most of the European continent by 1490. But what really had to be done was to hold the 1st place in land area category of the Demographics screen.

How about changing it to this: "Be the largest empire in Europe in 1490"?

Spirictum · Jan 16, 2013

The idea is to hold more territory in europe then anyone else. I remember someone discovered that southern greece didn't count for this achievement, but I'm not sure if they corrected this.

AbsintheRed · Jan 16, 2013

rfcfanatic said:
Is it just me, but the wording of the Hungarian Black Army guest ("Control the most territory in Europe in 1490") feels kind of ambiguous. At first I thought that I had to conquer most of the European continent by 1490. But what really had to be done was to hold the 1st place in land area category of the Demographics screen.

How about changing it to this: "Be the largest empire in Europe in 1490"?

Sry, I thought it's pretty clear what do we meant here
The wording can be changed of course

Spirictum said:
The idea is to hold more territory in europe then anyone else. I remember someone discovered that southern greece didn't count for this achievement, but I'm not sure if they corrected this.

Yeah, I added the missing provinces for 1.1

AbsintheRed · Jan 16, 2013

merijn_v1 said:
What kind of adjustments do you want to make. If they completely revert my changes, I won't put the energie in it.

Actually I'm not yet sure, sry. Maybe they can stay in the end
Depends on how much things I have to change in the current system...

AbsintheRed · Jan 17, 2013

AbsintheRed said:
About the mercs: a small continuous notification for the player is a good idea
Will think about it, how would be the best to solve this

AbsintheRed said:
I don't want to add too many things to the user interface, but what if this is another small line under the stability, GG points and UHV counters in the top left corner?
In the same minimalistic stlye: a small mercenary icon, and after that a number of the availeable mercenaries
Or two numbers: currently hired mercenaries + the availeable ones
Thoughts on this?

any comments?

Spirictum · Jan 17, 2013

That would be incredibly useful, a lot better then the current one.

gps · Jan 18, 2013

gps said:
Just one thing seems a little bit strange, maybe a bug? I was playing Germany and vasalized Norse. When Sweden appeared they were at war with the Norse but at peace with me. When I ask Sweden to make peace with Norse they say "Sorry, it's not in our their hands". And this infinite war really spoils my relationship with Sweden...

AbsintheRed said:
Thanks, glad you like the mod!
And it's definitely a bug, I'm looking for it some time now
There is something wrong with war declarations when vassalization and spawns are both in the picture

I am no programming genius, but it couldn't be this one?

In the Riseandfall.py:

def setWarOnSpawn( self ):
for i in range( iNumMajorPlayers - 1 ): # exclude the Pope
iTeamMajor = gc.getPlayer(i).getTeam()
pTeamMajor = gc.getTeam( iTeamMajor )
for j in range( iNumTotalPlayers ):
if ( con.tWarAtSpawn[j] > 0 ): # if there is a chance for war
if ( gc.getGame().getSorenRandNum(100, 'war on spawn roll') < con.tWarAtSpawn[j] ):
iTeamSecond = gc.getPlayer(j).getTeam()
pTeamSecond = gc.getTeam( iTeamSecond )
#print(" 3Miro WAR ON SPAWN between ",iTeamMajor,iTeamSecond)
#pTeamMajor.setAtWar( iTeamSecond, True )
#pTeamSecond.setAtWar( iTeamMajot, True )
gc.getTeam( gc.getPlayer(i).getTeam() ).setAtWar( gc.getPlayer(j).getTeam(), True )
gc.getTeam( gc.getPlayer(j).getTeam() ).setAtWar( gc.getPlayer(i).getTeam(), True )

merijn_v1 · Jan 18, 2013

Probably not. If there is a # in front of a line of python code, that line won't be used. This makes it possible to add comments etc.

gps · Jan 18, 2013

Well, the problem is, that the main civ does not get the proper war status the vassal gets. Here we have coding that goes through all combinations of civs and sets war status for "iTeamMajor" and "iTeamSecond" on spawn to "True" based on some randomizer. Plus we have lines that clearly derive something called "pTeamMajor" and "pTeamSecond" for all the cycled civs - and the part where the "pTeamMajor" and "pTeamSecond" get their proper setAtWar to "True" has typos and is commented out.
Or, if these lines are not the relevant ones, then I'd say there should be some kind of mechanism to either exclude vassals from the process - or to identify a vassals superiour and pass on the given war status.

AbsintheRed · Jan 21, 2013

gps said:
Well, the problem is, that the main civ does not get the proper war status the vassal gets.

Hmm, why would you think this?
This is the setAtWar function from the dll:

Code:

void CyTeam::setAtWar(int /*TeamTypes*/ iIndex, bool bNewValue ){
	if (m_pTeam)
		m_pTeam->setAtWar((TeamTypes)iIndex, bNewValue);

So, the code part you posted should work correctly

Code:

        def setWarOnSpawn(self):
                for i in range( iNumMajorPlayers - 1 ): # exclude the Pope
                        iTeamMajor = gc.getPlayer(i).getTeam()
                        pTeamMajor = gc.getTeam( iTeamMajor )
                        for j in range( iNumTotalPlayers ):
                                if ( con.tWarAtSpawn[i][j] > 0 ): # if there is a chance for war
                                        if ( gc.getGame().getSorenRandNum(100, 'war on spawn roll') < con.tWarAtSpawn[i][j] ):
                                                iTeamSecond = gc.getPlayer(j).getTeam()
                                                pTeamSecond = gc.getTeam( iTeamSecond )
                                                #print(" 3Miro WAR ON SPAWN between ",iTeamMajor,iTeamSecond)
                                                #pTeamMajor.setAtWar( iTeamSecond, True )
                                                #pTeamSecond.setAtWar( iTeamMajor, True )
                                                gc.getTeam( gc.getPlayer(i).getTeam() ).setAtWar( gc.getPlayer(j).getTeam(), True )
                                                gc.getTeam( gc.getPlayer(j).getTeam() ).setAtWar( gc.getPlayer(i).getTeam(), True )

Btw, the last two lines are exactly the commented out lines (without the typo of course)

DC123456789 · Jan 25, 2013

The French still appear to remain the "Frankish Empire" well past the 9th century...

rfcfanatic · Jan 28, 2013

DC123456789 said:
The French still appear to remain the "Frankish Empire" well past the 9th century...

Yeah, in fact they did it even in 1580 when running Limited Monarchy and Common Law.

AbsintheRed · Jan 28, 2013

Yeah, I left the new DCN updates half-finished, then kinda forgot about it. Ups

So some of these very old bugs are still there...

Sorry guys, but I definitely won't forget to finish these for the next version
This is from my latest table:

Spoiler :

AbsintheRed · Jan 30, 2013

I wrote a couple new python mechanics
One is for an alternative spreading for judaism
Between 800 and 1700 there is a 5% chance to spread to a random city (any city on the map), every 3 turns. Means ~5-6 spreads
Additionally, between 1000 and 1500 there is a 9% chance to spread to a random central european city (Germany, Poland-Lithuania, Hungary, Austria), every 3 turns. Means another 5-6 spreads
The dates and the chances are not final, just a first draft. I'm open to suggestions

Also, added wonder captured/destroyed messages
It has 2*3 parts (3 for capturing and 3 for razing):
when you capture/destroy a city with a wonder
when a known AI captures/destoryes a city with a wonder
when someone captures/destroyes a known AI's city with a wonder (and the conquerer is unknown)

Uploaded these to the SVN
Can you guys test them out, if everything working correctly ingame?

AbsintheRed · Jan 31, 2013

iOnlySignIn said:
I have friends who can speak Scottish, Middle High German, and Lithuanian. The first two of them have high quality microphones for recording (and they both sound magnificent). I don't know about the third. Just give me some details (What lines are there exactly? Do they need to be recorded in separate files? Is mp3 the preferred format? I don't have Civ IV installed atm so I can't check.) and I'll ask them.

Any news on the sounds?

AbsintheRed · Feb 1, 2013

Now that the free wins against barbs are removed, the French have a much harder situation for their first UHV
Most successful strategies I know involved some early barb city taking and XP farming from the free wins against those archers

In order to compensate this change, they start with an additional archer and 2 axemen.
I also reduced the barb archers in Bordeaux and Toulouse
I'm not yet sure if this is enough, could you guys test the French UHV1 out with the latest SVN version?

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