[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

Yeah, like it a lot. I ate only Armenian Churchkhela, but they are identical in recipe.

Apparently it is widespread through out the area. Sounds like motivation to visit the area. :thumbsup:
 
So, who the heck is this guy? They've been teasing him since the very first livestream, so he's had a big buildup and actually seems like the dark horse/wildcard civ of the XPAC (somehow Georgia didn't receive that honor). They've been showing him more and more, first blurry, then clearly. Anybody have suggestions?

[Edit]: Sorry for moving this around so much. Was trying to find the right thread for it.

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Basil II is not a terrible option, but the face shape doesn't match.

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Latauro seems most likely still, but the hair REALLY doesn't match:



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Or Huayna Capac for the Inca:

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So, who the heck is this guy? They've been teasing him since the very first livestream, so he's had a big buildup and actually seems like the dark horse/wildcard civ of the XPAC (somehow Georgia didn't receive that honor). They've been showing him more and more, first blurry, then clearly. Anybody have suggestions?

[Edit]: Sorry for moving this around so much. Was trying to find the right thread for it.

Basil II is not a terrible option, but the face shape doesn't match.

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Latauro seems most likely still, but the hair REALLY doesn't match:


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I think you've got to keep the civ colors in mind as well. We've seen that whichever civ this guys leads has a blue/sky blue color scheme. Neither color is associated with Byzantium, as far as I know. Those colors do, however, match up with colors associated with the Mapuche. I think the hair might be off, but the facial features and skin color do point towards a South American.
 
I highly doubt it's Huyana Capac because I don't see them adding the Inca unless Machu Picchu is added as a wonder. Granted they could add it as a special improvement, but I don't see the logic in that. I think it is very likely that the Inca are not included in this expansion and are instead being saved for a DLC or the next expansion.

He looks south american, Basil II doesn't make sense with those facial features... then again there's already been some criticism towards how they model the leaders.
 
Latauro seems most likely still, but the hair REALLY doesn't match

What do you mean the hair doesn't match? It looks almost exactly like this one:

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Unless you're seeing something I'm not?
 
Could be Basil II who is sometimes pictured with a circlet instead of a crown.

I think you've got to keep the civ colors in mind as well. We've seen that whichever civ this guys leads has a blue/sky blue color scheme. Neither color is associated with Byzantium, as far as I know. Those colors do, however, match up with colors associated with the Mapuche. I think the hair might be off, but the facial features and skin color do point towards a South American.

Forgot to mention that, thank you.

Another option:

Pomare of Tahiti

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What do you mean the hair doesn't match? It looks almost exactly like this one:

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Unless you're seeing something I'm not?

Hadn't seen that one. In every other depiction I've seen though, he's depicted with long, flowing hair. That doesn't mean they didn't take creative license or use other references, like that statue though.
 
So, who the heck is this guy? They've been teasing him since the very first livestream, so he's had a big buildup and actually seems like the dark horse/wildcard civ of the XPAC (somehow Georgia didn't receive that honor). They've been showing him more and more, first blurry, then clearly. Anybody have suggestions?

[Edit]: Sorry for moving this around so much. Was trying to find the right thread for it.

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If it's not Lautaro for the Mapuche I would say it could be a Polynesian Civ. Maori doesn't fit but maybe Samoa. I'm not sure.
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Not sure who this is but take off most of the headdress and leave the headband on it fits.
Also both Western Samoa and American Samoa have blue in their flag.
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The light blue could represent the ocean, or just another shade to complement it without diving into white or other shades of red. Because we have too many of those already.
 

I can't see them adding two Native American Civs from North America in the same expansion. Imagine the complaints about that....why aren't Inca/Ottomans/Byzantines/Carthage/Maya etc in!? And two Native American Civs are!? (the language would probably be more offensive than that....)
 
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I can't see them adding two Native American Civs from North America in the same expansion. Imagine the complaints about that....why aren't Inca/Ottomans/Byzantines/Carthage/Maya etc in!? And two Native American Civs are!? (the language would probably been more offensive than that....)
To add on if they did pick an Apache it would have to be Geronimo. And it doesn't look like him at all. ;)
 
Maybe we can make a separate thread for speculating about headband guy.....but I'm guessing his Civ will be revealed sometime next week. It's possible either his or the Zulu will be revealed on the same week as release.....
 
I highly doubt it's Huyana Capac because I don't see them adding the Inca unless Machu Picchu is added as a wonder. Granted they could add it as a special improvement, but I don't see the logic in that. I think it is very likely that the Inca are not included in this expansion and are instead being saved for a DLC or the next expansion.

He looks south american, Basil II doesn't make sense with those facial features... then again there's already been some criticism towards how they model the leaders.
I'm not sure Machu Picchu fits well into Civ6's wonder placement system; we may not see it this time around. However, I'll be sorely disappointed if our Sapa Inca isn't as dripping with gold as Monty is quetzal feathers, and Headband Guy has no gold. :p
 
I'm not sure Machu Picchu fits well into Civ6's wonder placement system; we may not see it this time around. However, I'll be sorely disappointed if our Sapa Inca isn't as dripping with gold as Monty is quetzal feathers, and Headband Guy has no gold. :p

I've heard others say that Machu Picchu may not work in Civ VI, but I don't understand why. Care to elaborate?
 
I've heard others say that Machu Picchu may not work in Civ VI, but I don't understand why. Care to elaborate?
Because wonders are now built to take up an entire tile on the map, placing it on a mountain would be visually and technically difficult, IMO.
 
Because wonders are now built to take up an entire tile on the map, placing it on a mountain would be visually and technically difficult, IMO.

Unless they will allow a player to built in on hills, then after completing the wonder it becomes an unpassable mountain that provides bonus to food and production.
 
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