[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

[Victoria]

Thank-you... but I was simply wondering if the loyalty mechanic for RNDYs applies to the city or dock location in regards to continents.

All loyalty modifiers are on the city, not on the building tile
RNDY will show under “other”
If you have a city on home continent but the RNDY is off continent it counts as +2
Hopefully that’s sorted you out? If not just ask, one has rather a lot of Victorian expertise
Playing a game a day with her ATM.

There's some serious BS hidden modifiers forcing all leaders to treat me like I'm the worst of all warmongers, even though the game tells me that they love me. I suspect that it's because I declared a liberation war and liberated two cities. It triggered Gandhi's agenda and it been on negative ever since, so

This is becoming too obvious... @Magil first raised this, I’ll start playing some diplo games, those hidden modifiers have always been there as far as I can tell. Half a year ago I had just the same issues and it’s not about war as far as I can tell, it can just be because you are too close to them or winning or too stronger an army. However, there has always been ways around it given time so I’ll try out some tricks I know, will be a few days before I can comment more.

 

[Disgustipated]

On the Steam side of things, I am happy to report that Civ VI now has more players than Civ V!
Civ VI is at top 10 now, while Civ V is at top 15.

Interesting that Civ 5 has more staying power than Fallout 4.

 

[God of Kings]

Interesting that Civ 5 has more staying power than Fallout 4.

Interesting that Civ 5 does not have console ports to dilute the numbers.

 

[Leyrann]

On the Steam side of things, I am happy to report that Civ VI now has more players than Civ V!
Civ VI is at top 10 now, while Civ V is at top 15.

To be fair, that might just be expansion hype.

 

[Disgustipated]

Interesting that Civ 5 does not have console ports to dilute the numbers.

True, but as a die hard PC'r, I can't see playing that game on a console. I played it on my PC. I don't know for sure, but I'm sure it's better on the PC than a console.

 

[God of Kings]

True, but as a die hard PC'r, I can't see playing that game on a console. I played it on my PC. I don't know for sure, but I'm sure it's better on the PC than a console.

I never understood why some developers insist on being on multiple platforms (other than for profit).

I believe that console games should stay on consoles and PC games should stay on the PC.

Pokémon is a fun video game in its own right (and extremely popular too), but it would be very sub-optimal for the PC.

 

[pgm123]

Well, if you delay building Government Plaza for some reasons (and as I understand, there could be enough reasons for this), Audience Chamber grows better and better.

Alternatively, if you already have a few cities down and don't plan on expanding beyond a certain number, you might just plan ahead with the Audience Chamber. I've selected it a few times so far. I don't know if it's optimal, but it seems to help with population growth.

 

[stealth_nsk]

I never understood why some developers insist on being on multiple platforms (other than for profit).

This "other than" is the only reason for making most of the games. It's a business.

Although, I have to say, having console-optimized UI on PC is a pain. Really hope Bethesda will avoid it in their future games.

 

[WillowBrook]

On the Steam side of things, I am happy to report that Civ VI now has more players than Civ V!
Civ VI is at top 10 now, while Civ V is at top 15.

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It will be interesting to see if this is more than release weekend enthusiasm. Here's the steamchart graph with the player numbers for civ V and VI for the past month:
http://steamcharts.com/cmp/289070,8930#1m

 

[Victoria]

@Craig_Sutter
So here is a city with +6 other

It is off continent

Adding an RNDY on continent still gets the +2 gold for being off continent and the +4 loyalty, therefore its is the city continent placing, not the district.

For those that are not aware... when england starts on a continental edge like this it is very good. I have about 20 swordsmen and bought none of them.

 

[sonicmyst]

It will be interesting to see if this is more than release weekend enthusiasm. Here's the steamchart graph with the player numbers for civ V and VI for the past month:
http://steamcharts.com/cmp/289070,8930#1m

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I suppose the discount from other websites also help rack up some sale. We will see if the numbers will change in the coming weeks.

 

[bladex]

all the new civs are boring they literally add nothing of value or importance...

 

[Victoria]

all the new civs are boring they literally add nothing of value or importance...

Nothing is of value or importance, its a game.
I only play with civs once apart from Victoria, Catherine and occaisionally Gorgo or GOTM. They add value to me because they make things a tiny bit harder and thats important to me.
Your opinion is noted if you were just registering it.

 

[Ferocitus]

all the new civs are boring they literally add nothing of value or importance...

Lamest post of the year.

 

[bladex]

Lamest post of the year.

lamest reply of the year. we're not muricans mate so don't act like one. but than again pretty much what can you expect from south Australia...let me guess Melbourne?

 

[Giskler]

all the new civs are boring they literally add nothing of value or importance...

Ok, edgelord.

 

[Victoria]

Just wondering, if they didn’t then no civs do. A bit of a self defeating remark.

 

[SxSnts9]

Please don't use literally again. You meant figuratively.

Anyway you are welcome to your own opinion of course. I appreciate the new civs/leaders and am enjoying my current game as Lautaro even though I've barely made use of his uniques (Except training in cities with govenors that 25%+barracks/stable 25% is pretty sweet).

If you like a certain type of game (War, Builder, Diplomatic, Religious, $$$$, etc.) there seems to be at least one for you in this expansion, but by all means stick to your vanilla leader and enjoy stomping the new guys. Wiping out Genghis should be fun whether you think he's a great addition to the line-up or not.

 

[God of Kings]

This "other than" is the only reason for making most of the games. It's a business.

Although, I have to say, having console-optimized UI on PC is a pain. Really hope Bethesda will avoid it in their future games.

Not just that, but said developer also ported some games to the Switch as well!

I once said that PC games should stay on the PC, but seeing how well done Civ VI is doing on the iPad, I can make a few exceptions.

For example, Civ VI could be done on the Switch with some adjustments and that the PC version should not suffer just to accommodate the Switch and vice-versa.

 

[agonistes]

Can I say just how much I love that you can literally buy your way to a science victory now?

Reyna has a promo which allows you to buy districts with gold outright, the Royal Society allows you to rush district projects with builders (though they prevented 1 turn victories by limitimg it to one builder per turn), and gold buying builders is very easy late game where 400+ gold per builder is chump change.

This is the kind of the stuff that is killing my love of the game. The last thing we needed was the game to be easier. I started playing with the standard ruleset again, last night, because for me the expansion is just a mess. Europe is a graveyard of free cities popping back and forth. A second 50% on settlers? Boosts to chops?

Once more details had been revealed prerelease, I was torn between buying and not buying. The new civs and world wonders looked awesome. Everything else seemed moronic. I've given it a try. I'm finding it depressing to play the game its gotten so bad. But its depressing not to be able to play as Scotland or Georgia.

I wish they had allowed for the new civs to operate under standard rules, changing the mechanics where needed. As it is, I've pretty much just pissed away my money on a ... I can't say 'poor' product, because obviously a great many people like it. But a product I feel has scarred the face of the civ franchise, making it even more sophomoric than it had already become, to the point it feels... tacky. And making it horribly unfun for me to play.

Just give me the civs and wonders without the other garbage, thanks, and I'd be happy. Governors, loyalty, eras... just make them all options please.