[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

I don't think a Manchurian city is likely. They weren't known for their science. Seoul could be replaced by a non-East Asian city, since this is the expansion. They changed Jakarta to Bandar Brunei in a DLC and still kept the same symbol.:rolleyes: Whatever City-State replaces Seoul won't keep the same symbol, since it's so obviously Korean/or Chinese.
They would have to change the Amsterdam logo as well. Also some city-states are getting new suzerain bonuses, which I think the Amsterdam replacement could get if their bonus becomes part of the Dutch Unique Ability, which I think could be likely.Seoul's bonus is generic though and wouldn't have to change, although it would be for the better no matter what city it becomes.
 
I'm not sure what the Chinese government would think of Taipei being a separate city from China in a game. Then again, Hong Kong is a city-state, but maybe they changed that in the Chinese version?
I was wondering that, too. But given the inclusion of Hong Kong, it seems it wouldn't be an issue. My bet is on Taipei as the city state replacement for Seoul (at least on the English version).
 
I was wondering that, too. But given the inclusion of Hong Kong, it seems it wouldn't be an issue. My bet is on Taipei as the city state replacement for Seoul (at least on the English version).
I don't think China argues about Hong Kong; as they were historically always British or a British Crown Dependency (up to 20 years ago). Taipei on the other hand wasn't really "more independent then it currently is". Hong Kong was undisputedly independent from China at some point.
 
And if Canada makes it in this expansion we also have to think a replacement for Toronto too.

And if we're gonna think of alternative city-states, I can think of:
Helsinki
Havana
Luxembourg
Taipei
Pyongyang
 
And if Canada makes it in this expansion we also have to think a replacement for Toronto too.

And if we're gonna think of alternative city-states, I can think of:
Helsinki
Havana
Luxembourg
Taipei
Pyongyang
I would expect Pyongyang to be on the Korea city list. Although it wasn't in the part of Korean peninsula that Seondeok ruled, and it's in the generally disliked part of Korea today, it's indisputably a Korean city.
 
And if Canada makes it in this expansion we also have to think a replacement for Toronto too.

And if we're gonna think of alternative city-states, I can think of:
Helsinki
Havana
Luxembourg
Taipei
Pyongyang
Pyongyang? Wouldn't Korea use that, or probably not even be in the game?
Edit: First time for everything:ninja:
 
That is excellent. We are all doing our parts.

By the way, Wilhelmina will love this toy:

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That would rival Mr. Bully for You's toy.

Oh, and Qin Shi Huang's Terracotta Army has a parasol:

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Pardon my ignorance on this issue.. I'm gay, I never have to think of breasts in ANY fashion but even in the images I've seen of her, there are none where her breasts sag THAT low. It may be a Dutch custom I'm unaware of, and I indeed mean no offense by this statement. Am I the only one who noticed that?
 
Pardon my ignorance on this issue.. I'm gay, I never have to think of breasts in ANY fashion but even in the images I've seen of her, there are none where her breasts sag THAT low. It may be a Dutch custom I'm unaware of, and I indeed mean no offense by this statement. Am I the only one who noticed that?
I never noticed that.

Yes, it does look rather unrealistic, even for women who both don't wear any lingerie and have oversized breasts.
 
Both "Maya" and "Mayan" are correct. Mayan tends to be used either as the language or adjective rather than the demonym, but I don't think it's explicitly incorrect.

My understanding is that the people are Maya and the language is Mayan, by convention. There are about seven million Maya today, if anyone wants to reach out to them and ask if that's true.
 
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