[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

[Eagle Pursuit]

So, we have a livestream today and possibly a wonder movie later this week. What are everyone's guesses for next week? Monday is Christmas, so it is unlikely they will follow the same schedule.

1. Will we get a First Look the week of Christmas?
2. If so, which day of the week?
3. Which Civ will be revealed next? (Whether next week or later)
4. Anything else next week?

My guesses:
1. Yes
2. Thursday
3. Mali
4. Sneak peek Wednesday, no wonder movie

How about you? What do you think?

1 Yes
2 Thursday
3 Middle-eastern civ
4 no livestream, but all the other stuff will be there, but the FL and FL hints will be off by a few days

 

[Zaarin]

So, we have a livestream today and possibly a wonder movie later this week. What are everyone's guesses for next week? Monday is Christmas, so it is unlikely they will follow the same schedule.

1. Will we get a First Look the week of Christmas?
2. If so, which day of the week?
3. Which Civ will be revealed next? (Whether next week or later)
4. Anything else next week?

My guesses:
1. Yes
2. Thursday
3. Mali
4. Sneak peek Wednesday, no wonder movie

How about you? What do you think?

So far we've gotten civs you don't have to be a fanatic mining trailers for clues to predict; I expect we get our first wildcard next week.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

So far we've gotten civs you don't have to be a fanatic mining trailers for clues to predict; I expect we get our first wildcard next week.

They've hit the 3 obvious ones from the trailer. If there are others hinted at in the smaller details, we will probably find out in the next First Look. If the next one has nothing to do with the trailer, it significantly discredits the additional "evidence".

 

[Kimiimaro]

Fifty days, guys

Btw. If there is going to be a Christmas first look, I hope for the Ottoman Empire. It would be truly a nice present

 

[God of Kings]

I believe that there would be a First Look next week, just not on Christmas Day or the day after (aka Boxing Day).

 

[Heinage]

I feel like it should be mandatory to pick a dark age policy during a dark age. That would make it more interesting

 

[Duckfromstatefarm]

I'm suspecting the First look next Week is going to be thursday due to Christmas and boxing day. Either that or one of the weeks in January is going to have two first looks.

 

[Kimiimaro]

Allright guys, time to update my list of City states that appeared in game.

Amsterdam - The Netherlands (2nd revealed R&F Civ)
Antananarivo - Madagascar (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Armagh - (Northern) Ireland
Auckland - New Zealand (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Buenos Aires - Argentina (appeared in Korea livestream)
Brussels - Belgium (appeared in Korea livestream)
Carthage - Carthage
Geneva - Switzerland (appeared in Korea livestream)
Granada - Moors, Al-Andalus (appeared in the Netherlands' First Look)
Hattusa - Hittites (appeared in Korea livestream)
Hong Kong - Hong Kong
Jakarta - Indonesia (DLC) - replaced by Bandar Brunei - Brunei
Jerusalem - Hebrews, Israel
Kabul - Afghanistan (appeared in Korea livestream)
Kandy - Sri Lanka
Kumasi - Ashanti
La Venta - Olmec
Lisbon - Portugal
Mohenjo Daro - Harappa
Muscat - Oman (appeared in Korea livestream)
Nan Madol - Micronesia
Palenque - Maya (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Preslav - Bulgaria (appeared in Korea livestream)
Toronto - Canada
Seoul - Korea (1st revealed R&F Civ)
Stockholm - Sweden (appeared in Korea's First Look)
Valletta - Malta (appeared in Korea livestream)
Vilnius - Lithuania (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Yerevan - Armenia
Zanzibar - Swahili (appeared in Korea livestream)

CS Replacements:
Antioch - Byzantium? (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Babylon - Babylon (appeared in Mongolia's First Look)

 

[Guandao]

Allright guys, time to update my list of City states that appeared in game.

Amsterdam - The Netherlands (2nd revealed R&F Civ)
Antananarivo - Madagascar (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Armagh - (Northern) Ireland
Auckland - New Zealand (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Buenos Aires - Argentina (appeared in Korea livestream)
Brussels - Belgium (appeared in Korea livestream)
Carthage - Carthage
Geneva - Switzerland (appeared in Korea livestream)
Granada - Moors, Al-Andalus (appeared in the Netherlands' First Look)
Hattusa - Hittites (appeared in Korea livestream)
Hong Kong - Hong Kong
Jakarta - Indonesia (DLC) - replaced by Bandar Brunei - Brunei
Jerusalem - Hebrews, Israel
Kabul - Afghanistan (appeared in Korea livestream)
Kandy - Sri Lanka
Kumasi - Ashanti
La Venta - Olmec
Lisbon - Portugal
Mohenjo Daro - Harappa
Muscat - Oman (appeared in Korea livestream)
Nan Madol - Micronesia
Palenque - Maya (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Preslav - Bulgaria (appeared in Korea livestream)
Toronto - Canada
Seoul - Korea (1st revealed R&F Civ)
Stockholm - Sweden (appeared in Korea's First Look)
Valletta - Malta (appeared in Korea livestream)
Vilnius - Lithuania (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Yerevan - Armenia
Zanzibar - Swahili (appeared in Korea livestream)

CS Replacements:
Antioch - Byzantium? (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Babylon - Babylon (appeared in Mongolia's First Look)

Canada being one of the R&F civs is looking more or more likely, or maybe Firaxis is intentionally not showing Toronto CS to get Canadian fans excited.

 

[WillowBrook]

1 Yes
2 Thursday
3 Middle-eastern civ
4 no livestream, but all the other stuff will be there, but the FL and FL hints will be off by a few days

Good, but unsurprising, guess at no livestream next week. Now watch them surprise us with a Tuesday first look.

 

[Siptah]

Canada being one of the R&F civs is looking more or more likely, or maybe Firaxis is intentionally not showing Toronto CS to get Canadian fans excited.

I think the CS they show are really random. We‘ve seen a bunch in of Industrial CS, but not too many. Don‘t get your hopes down. (is that a thing?)

 

[durfal]

Making a Byzantine city a CS, and above that it's not Constantinople, basically confirms the Ottomans as a civ for me.

 

[Cerilis]

This doesnt work like that. It's not either this or that, with one's absence meaning the other's presence. It only works the other way around.

 

[AvianBritish]

Making a Byzantine city a CS, and above that it's not Constantinople, basically confirms the Ottomans as a civ for me.

That's a pretty good reason; makes me wonder if the Ottomans will become the "Orange and White Civ"

 

[Guandao]

The Civ6 website still won't load properly on my laptop. Anyone else still have this problem?

It loads properly on my Ipad. Must be a problem with my laptop.

 

[CivLuvah]

What are the chances that Italy would be featured as a civilization in the new expansion? I know there are no Italian city-states in the game so far...

P.S.: I first posted this question on the Screenshot Thread but then realized that I should have posted it here in the first place. This is what lack of sleep does to you.

 

[Guandao]

What are the chances that Italy would be featured as a civilization in the new expansion? I know there are no Italian city-states in the game so far...

P.S.: I first posted this question on the Screenshot Thread but then realized that I should have posted it here in the first place. This is what lack of sleep does to you.

No Italian City-States means good chance of Italy becoming a Civ. Of course, they might not make a whole Italy Civ and do something like Genoa/Tuscany/Venice/etc. But I prefer the entire Italy as a Civilization.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

What are the chances that Italy would be featured as a civilization in the new expansion? I know there are no Italian city-states in the game so far...

P.S.: I first posted this question on the Screenshot Thread but then realized that I should have posted it here in the first place. This is what lack of sleep does to you.

It would be a dark horse, but as dark horses go, it's more likely than not.

 

[AvianBritish]

In Civ5:
Aztec was dark-orange and baby-blue
Inca was gold and turquoise
India was green and gold
Dutch was orange and white
Polynesia was orange and yellow
Russia was gold and black
Siam was yellow and red
Songhai was orange and burgundy

Civ4:
Celts was gold and black
Byzantium was grey and gold
Carthage was orange and white
Inca was gold and red
Mali was gold and black
Zulu was yellow and black

(All colours are base colour followed by symbol colour)

And as far as I am aware; the only nations today with a flag with orange and white on it are:
Bhutan, Ivory Coast, Cyprus (kinda), India, Ireland, Niger and Vatican City (also kinda)

So if they replaced Oz's colours with Green and Black, I would suggest that we might be getting Carthage back (or Phoenicia), or an alternative leader for someone like India or possibly Rome?

Good orange/gold and white civs could be Mali, Nazca or Canada (Seeing as there are abundant red and white civs, Maple-orange and white might be best)

EDIT: Nazca would be very suitable for Orange base with White symbol as their "Nazca Lines" are reddish-orange with white lines.

I posted this in the live-stream thread, but it's more of an on-going idea rather then one solely part of the live-stream.

In the stream we found out that they replaced Oz's colours with Green and Black. Other then the Dutch, the only previous Civ I can find with those colours was Carthage back in Civ4. This could mean we might get Carthage back (supported by the idea of us not seeing the City-state yet) or Phoenicia.

Other good orange/gold and white civs could be Mali, Nazca or Canada.

• Mali would be suitable because of their known riches and trade.
• Nazca would be very suitable for Orange base with White symbol as their "Nazca Lines" are reddish-orange with white lines.
• Canada are possible as Toronto has not been seen yet and Maple-orange and white might be ideal colours as Red and white is so abundant.

Also with the inclusion of Antioch (as opposed to Constantinople/Istanbul) makes Byzantium and Ottomans more likely, with the former less so over the latter as Antioch would of been part of Byzantium's city list surely? Because of this Ottomans could be a contestant for Orange and White.

 

[Guandao]

I posted this in the live-stream thread, but it's more of an on-going idea rather then one solely part of the live-stream.

In the stream we found out that they replaced Oz's colours with Green and Black. Other then the Dutch, the only previous Civ I can find with those colours was Carthage back in Civ4. This could mean we might get Carthage back (supported by the idea of us not seeing the City-state yet) or Phoenicia.

Other good orange/gold and white civs could be Mali, Nazca or Canada.

• Mali would be suitable because of their known riches and trade.
• Nazca would be very suitable for Orange base with White symbol as their "Nazca Lines" are reddish-orange with white lines.
• Canada are possible as Toronto has not been seen yet and Maple-orange and white might be ideal colours as Red and white is so abundant.

Also with the inclusion of Antioch (as opposed to Constantinople/Istanbul) makes Byzantium and Ottomans more likely, with the former less so over the latter as Antioch would of been part of Byzantium's city list surely? Because of this Ottomans could be a contestant for Orange and White.

The Nazca have no known leaders, and I don't want Firaxis to make someone up.