[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

[nzcamel]

Somebody should watch Kingdom of Heaven, Game of Thrones, and Merlin.

Now if we're going for historical accuracy as a measure... Nobody watch Kingdom of Heaven!!
The other two are more accurate

 

[darkace77450]

Didn't Alexander Siddig play Perseus or Hermes or something in one of those pseudo-Greek movies? (TBH, outside of Star Trek I've actually only seen him as Gabriel in The Nativity, which also featured Shoreh Aghdashloo as Elizabeth.)

He was perfectly cast to play Doran Martell in HBO's A Game of Thrones. Alas, the producers wasted both actor and the character with terrible writing.

 

[Zaarin]

Somebody should watch Kingdom of Heaven, Game of Thrones, and Merlin.
I know there are more but I can't think of any others off the top of my head at least that I've seen.

He was in 24, too. I may not have seen him, but I have his IMDb just about memorized. Better him than Nana Visitor; she's done a little bit of everything since DS9. Avery Brooks' is much easier: after DS9 he basically retired to academia. Shame, aside from being a great actor, he had a great voice. I would have loved to see his stage production of Death of a Salesman.

Now if we're going for historical accuracy as a measure... Nobody watch Kingdom of Heaven!!
The other two are more accurate

I guess Game of Thrones could be said to be an accurate depiction of an atheist nihilist's rewriting of Medieval history.

He was perfectly cast to play Doran Martell in HBO's A Game of Thrones. Alas, the producers wasted both actor and the character with terrible writing.

So I've heard. Sorry, GoT, but you lost the thing that came closest to my giving you a chance.

 

[nzcamel]

I guess Game of Thrones could be said to be an accurate depiction of an atheist nihilist's rewriting of Medieval history.

In comparison with Kingdom of Heaven, it's almost gospel

 

[Zaarin]

In comparison with Kingdom of Heaven, it's almost gospel

All I know of Kingdom of Heaven is the sumptuous but hilariously inaccurate costumes I've seen in stills.

 

[Guandao]

Now if we're going for historical accuracy as a measure... Nobody watch Kingdom of Heaven!!
The other two are more accurate

Too bad my Social Studies teacher back in 9th Grade showed it to our class....
She did pointed out some of the historical inaccuracies (like the burning of the corpses), so it wasn't all bad.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

He was perfectly cast to play Doran Martell in HBO's A Game of Thrones. Alas, the producers wasted both actor and the character with terrible writing.

We should really get back on topic before I start ranting about why they changed around my favorite sub-plot in the books. We need more leaks to talk about.
That being said best T.V. show ever in my opinion.

He was in 24, too.

Only watched the last season, so wouldn't have known.

 

[nzcamel]

All I know of Kingdom of Heaven is the sumptuous but hilariously inaccurate costumes I've seen in stills.

If you want to add to your knowledge, this is the saner way to do it imho :

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

In comparison with Kingdom of Heaven, it's almost gospel

You almost have to agree with the one whose avatar is Sandor Clegane, the Hound.

 

[WillowBrook]

Ahem, peeps, back on topic please.

I really hope that they depict Robert the Bruce (if it is him) like he supposed to have dressed, something like this:

Spoiler Robert the Bruce :

And not like this :

Spoiler Highlander :

Though I fear that it will be the last.

The problem with the first depiction is that it immediately makes me think Monty Python...

 

[nzcamel]

Ahem, peeps, back on topic please.


The problem with the first depiction is that it immediately makes me think Monty Python...

Gotta be better than Braveheart etc. Seems legit:

 

[conorbebe]

Y'all don't dis Kingdom of Heaven, love it for what it is, not what it isn't.

 

[JustifierNA]

Do we know if Spec-Ops need to be close to an Aerodrome to make an air-drop to somewhere? And if we also need Rapid Deployment for that? I sure hope it works for
Everywhere inside your territory... they could be very handy for some late-game emergencies in such a case.

From the information, I saw "Can para drop forward without the use of aircraft" I will try to find my source of that for you and I'll edit it in it's been a while since I saw it

Edit:
Source:
Information located under the "New Units" Section

While of course, this does not confirm that you don't need Flight technology to build the unit or where it's located in the tech tree but it does imply that you wouldn't need a specific delivery system after the unit is unlocked

 

[God of Kings]

I guess Game of Thrones could be said to be an accurate depiction of an atheist nihilist's rewriting of Medieval history.

So I've heard. Sorry, GoT, but you lost the thing that came closest to my giving you a chance.

There's some who may disagree with me, but I strongly agree with Zaarin.

I'll just say that it is just plain depressing though (and too graphic and too disturbing for my liking too).

 

[nzcamel]

Y'all don't dis Kingdom of Heaven, love it for what it is, not what it isn't.

True - I do appreciate it as a fine work of propaganda

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

There's some who may disagree with me, but I strongly agree with Zaarin.

I'll just say that it is just plain depressing though (and too graphic and too disturbing for my liking too).

I agree to get back on topic after this post.
Disregarding the graphic stuff, it is one of the best stories I have ever read and watched.
Side note/getting back on topic: Now I kind of want Richard Madden to voice either William Wallace/Robert the Bruce or whoever it is. I mean he does have connections with Sean Bean. Wonder if he knows Scottish Gaelic?

 

[Duuk]

The only way I will accept Shaka is if his proper theme song is included.

..edit: Or Shakira's "This time for Africa", but only so I can walk around singing "Waka waka" all day.

 

[Craig_Sutter]

Didn't Alexander Siddig play Perseus or Hermes or something in one of those pseudo-Greek movies? (TBH, outside of Star Trek I've actually only seen him as Gabriel in The Nativity, which also featured Shoreh Aghdashloo as Elizabeth.)

He played Hannibal in a History of Nat Geo tv show which I saw a number of years ago...

 

[Siptah]

I guess that the civ revealed next will be the Mapuche. We've seen his portrait two times already.
Next will be Scotland.
Zulu last. Just to remember the G&K announcements. Everybody was sure that Shaka/Zulu would be revealed last, but then it turned out to be Sweden and no one could believe it. So if they planned this the other way round this time (everybody thinking Inca, or Ottomans, or Mali), it would be fun. Shame that the leak ruined it.

 

[Uberfrog]

I guess that the civ revealed next will be the Mapuche. We've seen his portrait two times already.
Next will be Scotland.
Zulu last. Just to remember the G&K announcements. Everybody was sure that Shaka/Zulu would be revealed last, but then it turned out to be Sweden and no one could believe it. So if they planned this the other way round this time (everybody thinking Inca, or Ottomans, or Mali), it would be fun. Shame that the leak ruined it.

I remember that clue being particularly devious - they showed a close up of his armour's filigree from the concept art, which people were sure was Shaka's leopardskin.

I think the Zulu will probably be last too, since they're the only fan favourite at this stage.