[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

[blackcatatonic]

Am still anticipating a double reveal next week, Mapuche on Tuesday and Scotland on Thursday for Burns's Night...

 

[h0nk0815]

As the release is approaching: Does anyone know when we can expect that the NDA will be lifted and streamers/let's player may show something? When have we been able to see sth before the release of the base game?

 

[Leyrann]

As the release is approaching: Does anyone know when we can expect that the NDA will be lifted and streamers/let's player may show something? When have we been able to see sth before the release of the base game?

Someone mentioned yesterday or earlier today (not sure which) that a streamer/streamers couldn't say wheter or not they were allowed to stream... I believe this week, maybe next week. So yeah, decide for yourself what that means.

 

[Guandao]

I guess that the civ revealed next will be the Mapuche. We've seen his portrait two times already.
Next will be Scotland.
Zulu last. Just to remember the G&K announcements. Everybody was sure that Shaka/Zulu would be revealed last, but then it turned out to be Sweden and no one could believe it. So if they planned this the other way round this time (everybody thinking Inca, or Ottomans, or Mali), it would be fun. Shame that the leak ruined it.

Hopefully Firaxis will have smoothed everything out with the Mapuche leaders (if the headband leader is Lautaro) by then.
I just suspect that's the reason they didn't reveal them this week.

 

[Zaarin]

Hopefully Firaxis will have smoothed everything out with the Mapuche leaders (if the headband leader is Lautaro) by then.
I just suspect that's the reason they didn't reveal them this week.

"Quick! Stall them with a 'full details' video and a live stream while we round up some tobacco and fly to Argentina! We do not want the Cree thing to happen twice in one expansion!"

 

[Kimiimaro]

"Quick! Stall them with a 'full details' video and a live stream while we round up some tobacco and fly to Argentina! We do not want the Cree thing to happen twice in one expansion!"

Oh, and twenty-one days.

 

[Thormodr]

"Quick! Stall them with a 'full details' video and a live stream while we round up some tobacco and fly to Argentina! We do not want the Cree thing to happen twice in one expansion!"

Probably Chile, but yeah. Lol.

 

[Guandao]

@Kimiimaro, time to update your City-State list!

Kumasi and Nan Madol were in today's Livestream, in the second save.

 

[Zaarin]

@Kimiimaro, time to update your City-State list!

Kumasi and Nan Madol were in today's Livestream, in the second save.

*sigh* I'd love to see Madagascar added at some point. In place of the Zulu would be nice...

 

[Guandao]

*sigh* I'd love to see Madagascar added at some point. In place of the Zulu would be nice...

You're a Madagascar fan?
Welcome to my little club!

They really don't seem that popular here, mainly because people are unfamiliar with their history.
I started becoming more familiar with them after reading some materials by one of my former Professors, who does fieldwork in Madagascar.

 

[Kimiimaro]

@Kimiimaro, time to update your City-State list!

Kumasi and Nan Madol were in today's Livestream, in the second save.

I didn't notice them, so thanks about telling me

However, I'm going to sleep now. I'll add it tomorrow

 

[Zaarin]

You're a Madagascar fan?
Welcome to my little club!

They really don't seem that popular here, mainly because people are unfamiliar with their history.
I started becoming more familiar with them after reading some materials by one of my former Professors, who does fieldwork in Madagascar.

I'm not extremely familiar with them, but what I know is interesting. Certainly more interesting than "rage against the British and disappear" Zulu.

 

[Guandao]

I'm not extremely familiar with them, but what I know is interesting. Certainly more interesting than "rage against the British and disappear" Zulu.

I wouldn't necessarily say the Zulus disappeared, since they are still one of South Africa's major ethnic groups, but I get your point.

 

[Duuk]

I wouldn't necessarily say the Zulus disappeared, since they are still one of South Africa's major ethnic groups, but I get your point.

So, for reasons that should be obvious, I decided to re-watch something I haven't watched literally since it was on TV when I was like 11 (note theme song) Shaka Zulu. Which then got me reading the basic Wiki on him.

Please let the devs be a bit off the wall... Shaka wouldn't be COMPLETELY out of character to have a UU of impi (pikemen with bonus move) and (wait for it) bonuses to espionage and UB Ilkandha (+1 if behind in technology)

 

[ferretbacon]

Hopefully Firaxis will have smoothed everything out with the Mapuche leaders (if the headband leader is Lautaro) by then.
I just suspect that's the reason they didn't reveal them this week.

Wait, is there something to smooth over or are we just assuming there's going to be controversy because natives?

 

[Guandao]

Wait, is there something to smooth over or are we just assuming there's going to be controversy because natives?

We don't really know. It's just a suspicion of mines, since the Mapuche leaders objected to the use of their language by Microsoft (mainly because they haven't decided on how to standardize the writing of their language).

 

[Ondolindë]

"Quick! Stall them with a 'full details' video and a live stream while we round up some tobacco and fly to Argentina! We do not want the Cree thing to happen twice in one expansion!"

But why would the Mapuche be glad they were given tobacco and want to talk because of it?

 

[WillowBrook]

Wait, is there something to smooth over or are we just assuming there's going to be controversy because natives?

Bare speculation on my part. I was trying to come up with reasons for the lack of a First Look this week. Others have also wondered if there will be objections. But we have no hard evidence - we don't even know for certain they are coming.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

*sigh* I'd love to see Madagascar added at some point. In place of the Zulu would be nice...

Do you mean Ashanti/Ghana?
Because it's Antananarivo that's in Madagascar. Not Kumasi.

 

[Zaarin]

Do you mean Ashanti/Ghana?
Because it's Antananarivo that's in Madagascar. Not Kumasi.

No, I meant Madagascar--don't care about Ghana--but I did have the wrong city-state in mind.