[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

[Eagle Pursuit]

R&F was released on 2018-02-08. Today is the 26th, so R&F is just 18 days out.

Next Thursday is March 8th, 28 days after release. That would be a likely date for a "30 day patch" since the 20th day is a Saturday and they tend not to release things on Fridays.

 

[Disgustipated]

Has anyone been playing the Europe map? I'm on my first game on this map. Are there any goody huts? I don't see any so far. I'm guessing no since the Earth map had none. I take that back, I just found one.

Not a lot of polder locations. I wonder if I can build one by the cliffs of dover

 

[KayAU]

Today is the day I finally get to try Rise and Fall! I went on holiday for three weeks just two days before release, so that's some bad timing there.

So, how has it turned out? Are people happy with the expansion?

 

[Rotomagus]

I am at least surprised. Like the loyalty system a lot, as it works perfectly against forward settling. FS made me ragequit so many times. No more.

 

[KayAU]

I am happy to hear that. That was one thing I was hoping the loyalty system would fix. I've seen some truly ridiculous forward settling, an example of which I described here:
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/incredible-ai-city-placement.626735/

 

[Leyrann]

Today is the day I finally get to try Rise and Fall! I went on holiday for three weeks just two days before release, so that's some bad timing there.

So, how has it turned out? Are people happy with the expansion?

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[Disgustipated]

I'm pretty happy with the expansion. Though I will slow down now I'm done with the achievements and playing every leader/civilization. I'm playing the Europe map I mentioned above. It's not the most interesting game. I running with AI+ mod which has a few weird quirks. You can't expect the European lowlands to have much production, and they don't. Thankfully I get river adjacency as the Dutch, I'm starting industrial zones now. They will be the only things to save me, everything takes forever to build. And it's a slow map, I'm not sure what size it is, large maybe? The game is taking a while. I probably won't play this map again. Poor Scythia had the worst starting position, not a single hill or forest I think, she put her unique improvement on nearly every tile in her starting (and only city), barbarians did a number on her.

 

[Cerilis]

Is it just me, or does Saladin in particular really like his joint wars?

 

[SammyKhalifa]

To add to this, you mention Magnus, but they also synergise well with Reyna since they're trade route heavy - rank her up and buy districts till they are coming out of your ears.

and you likely want harbors in coastal cities anyhow, so Harbormaster will probably work out.

Related--has anyone figured out what "acquire new tiles in city faster" actually means?

 

[Disgustipated]

Has my first crash to desktop just now. Playing Europe TSL map with AI+ mod, it may be the mod that caused it. Not sure. It's a repeat crash, just crashed again. This game is lost. Most likely it was the mod that is causing this crash.

If anyone is interested it is on Europe TSL map as the Netherlands turn 414 (which is around 1804 or so) only mods are Yet (not) another map packs and AI + mod. I'll be disabling AI+ mod for future games. Game crashes between 414 and 415, cannot progress any further.

 

[jh.]

Has my first crash to desktop just now. Playing Europe TSL map with AI+ mod, it may be the mod that caused it. Not sure. It's a repeat crash, just crashed again. This game is lost. Most likely it was the mod that is causing this crash.

If anyone is interested it is on Europe TSL map as the Netherlands turn 414 (which is around 1804 or so) only mods are Yet (not) another map packs and AI + mod. I'll be disabling AI+ mod for future games. Game crashes between 414 and 415, cannot progress any further.

I've had several crashes running a handful of mods (including AI+) but haven't gone through them one-by-one yet. Thanks for the update.

 

[shaglio]

Related--has anyone figured out what "acquire new tiles in city faster" actually means?

I just assumed it was akin to the Religious Settlements Pantheon (border growth is x% faster). But I don't know that for certain.

 

[StoneBuffalo]

I'm dying to play this game... please come out for Mac already!
Considering installing boot camp to splice my Mac with Windows: thoughts on that?

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I'm dying to play this game... please come out for Mac already!
Considering installing boot camp to splice my Mac with Windows: thoughts on that?

Reportedly, R&F will be out for Mac and Linux in about a month.

 

[Katakanja]

I'm dying to play this game... please come out for Mac already!
Considering installing boot camp to splice my Mac with Windows: thoughts on that?

I think some people have done that... @Ondolindë can maybe give you some advice? Or perhaps its someone else with a mac that was talking about it

 

[bbbt]

I have bootcamped my machine (though it's more for work than gaming). It's easy to do, but you need to get/buy a Windows license so its not necessarily cheap. I've been playing via the Nvidia Now beta but I don't know if that's still accepting new sign-ups.

 

[Zenstrive]

Won Scientific victory as Cree on King, Continents. I took my continent for myself except Lisbon.

and I am now on the level of Nelson Mandela. Same native, same prisoner. Sorry if anyone got offended.

 

[Disgustipated]

Trying the European map again this time as Scotland. This has been very challenging because I went into a dark age, but I knew I had to get off my island so I attacked the Dutch. I conquered her cities, but managing loyalty has been a major problem. And then an Emergency happen and France joined in as well to try to retake Amsterdam (she hasn't done anything except send one archer though).

You might say don't war in a dark age, but I don't know if I can ever get a golden age stuck on my island. Maybe a normal age. I just barely managed to keep Amsterdam from flipping which would have caused me to fail the emergency. But I can't keep a city near Rome's borders from flipping.

edit: Take that back, now lost 2 cities to rebellion.

 

[sonicmyst]

Trying the European map again this time as Scotland. This has been very challenging because I went into a dark age, but I knew I had to get off my island so I attacked the Dutch. I conquered her cities, but managing loyalty has been a major problem. And then an Emergency happen and France joined in as well to try to retake Amsterdam (she hasn't done anything except send one archer though).

You might say don't war in a dark age, but I don't know if I can ever get a golden age stuck on my island. Maybe a normal age. I just barely managed to keep Amsterdam from flipping which would have caused me to fail the emergency. But I can't keep a city near Rome's borders from flipping.

edit: Take that back, now lost 2 cities to rebellion.

I hate that European map as Scotland. I got Rome expanding so fast that even if I conquer the cities in mainland Europe, they rebel immediately.

 

[Ondolindë]

I'm dying to play this game... please come out for Mac already!
Considering installing boot camp to splice my Mac with Windows: thoughts on that?

Reportedly, R&F will be out for Mac and Linux in about a month.

I think some people have done that... @Ondolindë can maybe give you some advice? Or perhaps its someone else with a mac that was talking about it

The Mac version is supposed to come out at the end of March although Aspyr-Blair from the Mac Steam forum didn’t sound that polite last he posted.

I think boot camp is a good option. What I’m doing is using Nvidia’s GeoForce Now. It’s in beta and it’s free at the moment for Mac Users. You register and it directs you to Steam. You download the expansion on Steam and you can play. Fast and easy as that. It requires you to have somewhat of a fast internet.

It’s been fun playing from the get go.