Rise of Mankind 2.9 discussion
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Looks good. Maybe think about grouping the displayed resources by (main)effect like happy, health, tactical.
What about an option to hide resources you don't have - might make the window a little smaller.
And i would prefer a thinner, longer column - but that might be due to playing on a widescreen notebook.
Bobisback
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I suggested this also but the author of the units said that he liked to be able to build spies even when he had agents. So I made a minor tweek and put it in my private minor tweeks mod
The attached needs to go in a modules folder that is being loaded. Might I suggest the Modules\Custom Units\Agents folder.
just clogs up the city screen imo, and since RoM does that just fine without help hahaha I appreciate any help to minimize it.
I couldn't find the files when I searched my hd... and seems I've also deleted the PM that had the link to those files. I'll try to dig'em out, might be in some folder that I didn't check yet (my hd is filled with Civ 4 downloads...).Any chance you could upload those sound effects? It's given me an idea...
Edit: found it, check the attachment.
The display is completely optional.Reducing displayed resources
Include only types:
-the player has
-discovered on map
-"available to trade"
But please please make it optional or we have that paradox "resource display uses system resources".
Now yesterday I tried to figure out how player's import/export resources could be found with python but I had no success with getting this type of feature working.
Anyway the more features I add it, the more heavier it will get on system resources so I rather keep it simple.
If you select for example Rush choice (see pics in previous posts) it will show only 5 resources. Only the All option has this huge display and it can't have longer columns as that would overlap with city hover display. Hmm.. happy, health, tactical might be doable... just need to make some extra arrays and loops to python...
CivTbone
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@Zappara
If you're still working on the gamefont, would it be possible for you to group all corporations/guilds icons actually used by my modular corporations/guilds (Actually AAranda's Corporations and Vincentz' Corporations and Guilds made modular), so that anyone making guilds/corporations would know to pick the ones not in use, ie, the first 6 is the game corps, then the next 16 corps and 15 guilds will mean that you'd have to use icons starting at 38(or 39 depending on the changes) or to make it easy, 40 on.
What I used for the iTGAindex for the corps are: 8,9,10,12,13,17,19 thru 28, and 30 thru 44 for guilds. Anything not used could be moved to after, and it would be nice if you threw in some more.
If you're still working on the gamefont, would it be possible for you to group all corporations/guilds icons actually used by my modular corporations/guilds (Actually AAranda's Corporations and Vincentz' Corporations and Guilds made modular), so that anyone making guilds/corporations would know to pick the ones not in use, ie, the first 6 is the game corps, then the next 16 corps and 15 guilds will mean that you'd have to use icons starting at 38(or 39 depending on the changes) or to make it easy, 40 on.
What I used for the iTGAindex for the corps are: 8,9,10,12,13,17,19 thru 28, and 30 thru 44 for guilds. Anything not used could be moved to after, and it would be nice if you threw in some more.
I realize this is a very old post but I have to say the AI is not handling Rev well in my games, the only opponents who are big enough to challenge me fall apart. The AI uses tons of resources to build cities it cannot hold onto. On emperor I usually start out with 10 or so civs, by the time I win a conquest victory (often before 1 AD) there are 25+ civs and they all have 1-2 cities.
I really like how Rev constrains my playstyle and makes me be more cautious but it is totally crushing the AI in my games. I wish I could turn it on for me and off for them, or just make it much harder for them to fall apart compared to me.
For now, I am going to try immortal with it turned on. I like the barb mods as well (raging barbs and barb world, barb civs is incredibly imbalanced when I have 3 units and they pop into life with a large stack of swordsmen next door I am dead, no way out. Maybe it works better without the starting barb cities?) but they may make it easier for the player I am not sure.
I didn't think about the city hover display. You are right of course. There might be things with a higher priority then the resource display
I haven't even started with the gamefonts - been too busy with other stuff and this weekend I'm going to my grandmother's 90th birthday party so not much modding this weekend. Anyway, thanks for telling what icons are used, when I get to work with gamefonts I'll group those used icons to the start of the index. I don't know if I get the new fonts done to v2.9, might be v3.0 as the release of 2.9 gets closer and closer (though I don't know when RevDCM gets updated).
I happy now with just the basic resource display - it can be improved later. And yes there is other higher priority things... yesterday I tried to balance resource spawning and seems that whatever settings I use for coffee/tea, those resources just won't spawn on the map plotsI didn't think about the city hover display. You are right of course. There might be things with a higher priority then the resource display
I'll have to spend another evening tweaking them... and then I still have to check random events and and... there's just lots of stuff to do. 
Oh, two quests (in case you want to go into those too) that where a bit whack:
The blessed sea quest requesten on a huge map settlements on 30 landmasses. Besides the fact that there is nearly no way to amass such a huge amount of cities all over the world, there weren`t even enough landmasses.
The greed evend once gave me upon completion no less than 10 warlord privateers. Nice, but way over the top.
The blessed sea quest requesten on a huge map settlements on 30 landmasses. Besides the fact that there is nearly no way to amass such a huge amount of cities all over the world, there weren`t even enough landmasses.
The greed evend once gave me upon completion no less than 10 warlord privateers. Nice, but way over the top.
i would suggest that the special promotion for religious bonus should be tweak a bit.
as that every type of monastery should got it own religious bonus special promotion.
i love to setup my military production city with those special promotion,but some that promotion only appear in the holy city,where always not a good city to be military base.and it would be annoying..
as that every type of monastery should got it own religious bonus special promotion.
i love to setup my military production city with those special promotion,but some that promotion only appear in the holy city,where always not a good city to be military base.and it would be annoying..
Hey all, first of all its good to see this mod still rolling along. I've been playing RoM since v1.0 (actually i think it might have been .08) played every version and still think RoM is THE best video game (not just mod but GAME) i have ever played. Even though I have taken the last few months off of playing (dragon age came out) I know i will be playing again soon as the the thrill of a new game is starting to were off.... (starts to wonder what will happen when zappara gets hold of dragon ages remarkable toolset)...
One thing i would really like to see b4 this mod hits completion at v3.0 (or shortly thereafter) is the inclusion of some extra corps. i know i kknow... i've been saying this forever but there are some lovely modmods that could speed up the process.
anyway that's my 2 cents.
thanks zap
One thing i would really like to see b4 this mod hits completion at v3.0 (or shortly thereafter) is the inclusion of some extra corps. i know i kknow... i've been saying this forever but there are some lovely modmods that could speed up the process.
anyway that's my 2 cents.
thanks zap
I've had Dragon Age toolset installed on my computer for couple months now
Though I haven't played through that game yet so I won't spoil myself by going through its SDK files... but I guess I could say that I got some ideas for it... JanissaryRush
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I used to play immortal, standard maps with aggressive AI on epic speed. The game was a blast, it had tons of fightning, the powerful AIs would go about conquering a lot and I would have huge wars throughout all the ages.
Now that I've moved up to Diety, the games just flies by too fast. I don't have those great wars in each age. I tried Marathon speed, but the AI would just attack me so early. One way to do it would be to have an option that after 100 turns at any speed you can change it. Not just for my concern, I suspect many people find the first couple hundred years feels too slow.
For Abyssinian and Mali, the archer seems much more cost-effective than the other early age units. It is 1 less strength than axemen, elephants, horsemen. It costs atleast 50% less, doesn't require much research to acquire them and unlike the mounted units, doesn't have a unit that dominates them.
When I play as them, I just build archers exclusively and gun for catapults. Its only once reach second tier soliders that I diversify my army. Is it possible to make them 3.5 is strenght? If not make the modifiers 15% more against all unit classes to get the equivalent.
Now that I've moved up to Diety, the games just flies by too fast. I don't have those great wars in each age. I tried Marathon speed, but the AI would just attack me so early. One way to do it would be to have an option that after 100 turns at any speed you can change it. Not just for my concern, I suspect many people find the first couple hundred years feels too slow.
For Abyssinian and Mali, the archer seems much more cost-effective than the other early age units. It is 1 less strength than axemen, elephants, horsemen. It costs atleast 50% less, doesn't require much research to acquire them and unlike the mounted units, doesn't have a unit that dominates them.
When I play as them, I just build archers exclusively and gun for catapults. Its only once reach second tier soliders that I diversify my army. Is it possible to make them 3.5 is strenght? If not make the modifiers 15% more against all unit classes to get the equivalent.
E_Pluribus_Unum
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Hi!
Any news about 2.9 release date?
BUG team find and/or repair OOS?
Any news about 2.9 release date?
BUG team find and/or repair OOS?
strategyonly
C2C Supreme Commander
Dont know if it has been discussed before, but PLEASE, PLEASE have a civic like the old Monarchy that had "You Can Spend Money for Production" in early game era's. Economics is WAAAAAY to late for spending.
Soon... it shouldn't take long for the next RevDCM to come out. And OOS problems have been fixed, I think. I've also updated the OOSLogger.py so that it should now record the OOS's as it was supposed to. So I still hope I can release the next RoM version by the end of this month (as I said some month ago).
Edit: merged last night current RevDCM's SVN version which should be pretty close to RevDCM 2.7 - looks like there's been huge overhaul to the python files so I got to spend couple more evenings with the merge operation and I can also discard some RoM's python since certain things have been moved to DLL...
Last night completed RevDCM's and BUG's SVN merge to RoM 2.9... I was bit sleepy at work today...
Here's the current patch notes:
Now as BUG option's can be accessed through a new button, my new and shiny resource display doesn't seem to work anymore... one of those annoying things when you merge mods together. Got to find a way to fix it. And seems BUG will have 3 different main interfaces (you can swap them) so there's the painful task to copy all RoM specific changes from one main interface python file and add them to the 2 other interfaces - I don't know yet how's the different interfaces will work and what's different between them.. I think I saw something about plot list button sizes...
I've been extremely busy in real life for past month or so which is why the progress with RoM has been slow.
Here's the current patch notes:
Spoiler :
And seems BUG will have 3 different main interfaces (you can swap them) so there's the painful task to copy all RoM specific changes from one main interface python file and add them to the 2 other interfaces - I don't know yet how's the different interfaces will work and what's different between them.. I think I saw something about plot list button sizes... I've been extremely busy in real life for past month or so which is why the progress with RoM has been slow.
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